OotP: Snape/James ; Prophecy; Petunia; Lupin (and many spoilers)

[shannyb25]

No: HPFGUIDX 63637

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Vicky Gwosdz" 
<vicky.gwosdz at g...> wrote:
> Voila,
> 
> Finished my second read, and some more clear toughts on several 
> items.  First, I did'nt go through all of the posts, jut the 
latest, 
> so if anybody already said it before... well you know it.
> 
> SPOILERS AHEAD
> 
> **Snape/James
> 
> I kinda like Snape, so what happened to him in the memory was quite 
> disturbing.  But still I don't believe that this means that James 
was 
> bully, full stop.  I remember I did some things at 15 out of pure 
> boredom or spite for some people that I am now really ashamed of.  
> Still I was definitively no bully, I actually think I was a rather 
> kind person, except on some occasions.
> 
> To me, the memory explained a lot about Snape, but only very little 
> about James, except maybe the fact that he was just a normal boy.
>


As a teacher, we see this type of "mutual" bullying ALL the time, 
especially when two clashing personalities are in constant contact. I 
don't think it (the bullying) has any deeper meaning besides to focus 
on the fact that these boys had no love lost between them, but had 
had 5 years to intensify their dislike for one another. 

> **Prophecy
> 
> 1.  I do believe that DD did not want V to find out about the 
> prophecy, because that would mean that Harry would be a lot less 
safe 
> at Hogwarths, because then V would know not to fear DD. I know some 
> of you already raised this point, but it's by far the best 
> explanation for it that I've read.
> 
> 2. On the other hand I don't believe that it was coincidence that 
it 
> was Neville that also touched the prophecy.  I think JKR is giving 
a 
> clue here as to what that "big thing" is, what no-one is supposed 
to 
> guess.


There is something about this prophecy that is lurking in the murky 
waters of my brain, but has yet to surface concerning the 
aforementioned "big thing."


> 
> 3. When Petunia explains how she knows of Dementors, she uses the 
> term "that awfull boy".  Isn't it strange that she should refer to 
> James that way, since he would be at least 18 years old by the time 
> she got to meet him (he and Lily only start dating in their 7th 
> year). Maybe she's referring to some other boy (Snape????)that 
stayed 
> at their house in an earlier summer?


I think Petunia has greater ties to the WW than anyone realizes yet. 
She assuredly knows more than she is letting on.

> 
> 4. I didn't cry when Sirius died, but the *one* line in the book 
> where my heart broke (don't have it with me, so no exact quote) is 
> where Harry gets so angry at the Ministery for their position 
towards 
> halfbloods, when he thinks of how Lupins clothes are even shabbier 
> then before.   God, so sad!!!!!

I am with you. I didn't shed a tear during the death scene (even 
though I read it over three times within 5 minutes.) I think I was in 
shock. I started bawling like a baby when he found the mirror. I know 
everyone is shouting about the inconsistancy of the mirror, but I 
have a totally different take on it. Remember when Sirius gave him 
the mirror, Harry thought that he would never use it because he would 
never do anything to bring S. out of hiding and risk Sirius' capture 
(loss), so he put it completely out of his mind. When he found it and 
realized he could have talked to and confided in S. risk free for 
months and he hadn't, my heart broke. He had the means to have the 
contact with the person he most cherished and valued, but didn't use 
those means because he wanted to keep that loved one safe. And when 
all is said and done, we all know how that ends up. The whole 
situation is just so sadly ironic, it makes me want to weep for all 
the missed opportunities of life. 

Shannon, long time lurker, first time poster

 
> Any comments?
> 
> My 2 cts,
> 
> Vicky