OOP: James( was:Two-way Mirror and other frustrations)

fitzchivalryhk fitzchivalryhk at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 25 14:51:05 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 63651

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "bibphile" <bibphile at y...> 
wrote:
> 
> Yes, but what does that have to do with anything?  James was a 
> bully (in fifth year) regardless of Snape.  He "hexed anyone who 
> annoyed him and "hexed people for fun."  Lots of people, not just 
> Snape.  Later, he grew up and became a hero.
> 
> I didn't say Snape wasn't a bigot.  I said he turned spy and risked 
> his life.  That's simple fact. I don't see what Sanpe being a bigot 
> has to do with anything.  I thought we were discussing James.  
Snape 
> isn't the issue.  I mentioned Snape mostly to compliment James.  I 
> think James let go of his hatred.  It's a very mature and adult 
> thing to do.  He did better than either Snape or Sirius in that.
> 
> My argumement was simple.  People remember the man James 
became more 
> than the boy he was.
> 
> bibphile

I think it's asking too much for people to forget what the boy James 
was. No one forget that Snape had been a Death Eater, and even now 
when he was (apparently) working for the right side, and had the trust of 
Dumbledore, many people still suspect him. 

I think most people who spoke against James here, spoke against the 
James (at 15 ) who bullied Snape. Not many people doubted that he 
became a better man after he graduated from Hogwarts. However, the 
fact that he became a better man later does not excused him of 
bullying Snape before. What I find distrubing was that, quite a few 
people tried  to argue that James was a good person (at 15) because 
Snape deserved to be bullied, and that was what I cannot agree with.

Fitz






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