OOP: Sirius' House - Harry??????

ar_hp03 ar_hp03 at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 25 17:14:46 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 63701

I wonder how JKR will work out Kreacher's loyalties *if* the Harry 
does inherit Sirius' house. Dumbledore tells Harry that even though 
Kreacher never "disobeyed" a direct order from Sirius, he never felt 
any loyalty towards Sirius. If Kreacher is given clothes and set free 
then the other secrets of the Order are not safe anymore either. I 
would think that the HQ of the Order would have to moved to someother 
location.

~AR


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "catherinemckiernan" 
<catherinemck at h...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "medeacallous"
> <medeacallous at y...> wrote:
> > --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Sayuri" <sayuri_tama at h...> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > <snip>
> > 
> > > > In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dimercury7" 
<thorn360 at y...> 
> > wrote:
> > > > > But I wonder if J.K 
> > > > > Rowling is going to station the Order of the Phoenix 
[somewhere
> > > > other than Sirius' house], like 
> > > > > at Hogwarts? Any thoughts? 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Just quick theory: I think that Sirius's house will pass on to 
> > Harry
> > > (being Sirius's godson, and presumably the first person Sirius 
> > would
> > > will it to). I also think that the Order will continue to be 
> > stationed
> > > there, due to all the protections placed on the house. 
> > > 
> > > Sayuri
> > 
> > 
> > I'd love it if that happened, but it's not likely, IMO.  First, 
when 
> > could Sirius will it to Harry?  I don't know how the wizarding 
world 
> > works, but in the Muggle world, wills need to be witnessed, but 
> > anyone who witnessed a will written by Sirius after his escape 
would 
> > be proof that he was being helped to flee justice, which could be 
> > trouble for whomever witnessed it.
> > 
> > Would he have willed it to Harry before Azkaban?  Possible, but 
> > unlikely.  My husband is an estate lawyer, and he knows numerous 
40-
> > something men with children who don't have wills - it's a lot to 
ask 
> > that Sirius (knowing his personality) would have sat down with 
the 
> > family lawyer after Harry's birth and written his will.
> > 
> > But more importantly, in British Wizarding Society, bloodlines, 
> > blood ties and tradition seem extremely important.  I've read, 
and I 
> > agree, that it mirrors the Victorian era or something like.  
Based 
> > on the mores of traditional societies, it would be pretty much 
> > unheard of for a family member to will an entire family estate to 
a 
> > non-relative (yes, I know they're all related, the pervy 
inbreeders, 
> > but you know what I mean).  There seem to be cousins currently 
> > living, so the estate *should* go to them.
> > 
> > Considering that SB left home early and disavowed his family 
ties, 
> > it might also be that his father commuted his statutory 
obligation 
> > to Sirius by placing the estate in trust - perhaps to pass on to 
> > Sirius's offspring, or another family member if Sirius has no 
child.
> > 
> > MC
> 
> Who knows? I don't think Sirius-the-fugitive would necessarily be a
> problem. Moody, for example, is not going to let it stand in the way
> of making sure the Death Eaters don't get their grubby hands on the
> house. 
> I really hope that Sirius left a will, leaving everything either to
> Harry or, Harry really not needing the money, to Lupin, who 
definitely
> does. If he died intestate (and he didn't have the house under some
> trust), then the MoM presumably administers his estate. Under 
English
> and Welsh law, which the MoM might follow at least a bit, the estate
> would go to surviving uncles and aunts, if there are any left, as we
> know Sirius has no closer surviving relatives. If those uncles and
> aunts have pre-deceased their children, then the children get the
> share that would have belonged to the uncles and aunts. So let's 
hope
> Sirius made a will, or there's a handy little windfall going not 
only
> to the Tonks family, but the Malfoys and Lestranges! 
> 
> Maybe the Order had better start packing. They can leave the
> Hippogriff debris behind, though! 
> 
> Catherine McK






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