Spoiler: Sirius the 'Jerk'
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Thu Jun 26 00:38:10 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 63970
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "darrin_burnett"
<bard7696 at a...> wrote:
>
> Perhaps it wasn't the best choice of words, but "superior" and
"inferior" can also mean "boss" and "servant."<<
I think if JKR had wanted Sirius to say "subordinate" he would
have. The Fountain of Magical Brethren makes it clear how the
WW regards its "lesser breeds."
> We have from Dumbledore that Sirius was kind to house-elves
in general -- and he counted a werewolf as one of his closest
friends -- which indicates he did have a more enlightened
attitude than you are giving him credit for.<
Kind is not the same thing. I'm kind to my dog, but I don't
consider him my equal.
> So, if the Order captures a Death-Eater, the Ministry has no
right to imprison him or her? <
Without trial? No. You can't even say there was a war on,
because the war was over when Sirius was captured and it didn't
start again until the end of OOP. What crime had Kreacher been
convicted of? Neither he nor Sirius had been proven to have
done anything worthy of being imprisoned. Sirius attacked Harry
and threatened to murder Pettigrew...how is that worse than
what Kreacher was threatening to do?
>>> I don't have the book with me, but didn't Dumbledore tell
Sirius he couldn't free him? I mean, it's all fine and good to say
that Sirius should have sacrificed the safe haven for the order -
which WAS forced to operate undercover at the time -- for the
good of a house-elf who would have run to V- Mort supporters
the first chance he got, but in a practical sense, was that
Sirius' decision to make?<<
I can't find in canon that Dumbledore ever told Sirius he had to
keep Kreacher enslaved. Sirius kept saying, "we" can't set him
free, but Sirius was the only one who could have forced
Kreacher to accept clothes, so it was his decision to make.
Dumbledore says he warned Sirius to treat Kreacher with
kindness and respect, and that Kreacher would be dangerous. It
doesn't sound like AD ever thought keeping Kreacher was a
good idea. The security risk argument doesn't hold water. If
Sirius had set Kreacher free before the Order began meeting at
the house, the Elf wouldn't have learned anything that Voldemort
didn't know before.
Pippin
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