OOP Dumbledore's flaw/Harry's anger/D.A. spoiler
disv2002
rebecca at rsherry.freeserve.co.uk
Thu Jun 26 16:27:39 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 64332
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "chappysmom" <DBoyken at a...>
wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "zenchela" <zenchela at y...>
> wrote:
> > I understood Dumbledore to mean that he was risking the fate of
the
> > wizarding world in order to give one little boy peace of mind and
> as > innocent as possible. Voldemort had destroyed Harry's family,
> but to > keep him safe, Dumbledore had condemned Harry to ten years
> of neglect > and abuse at the hands of the Dursleys. Ultimately he
> felt very > guilty about it. By *not* telling Harry the entire
truth
> about his > relationship to Voldemort early on, Dumbledore gave
Harry
> space to > grow up, learn lessons at Hogwarts, play Quidditch, do
fun
> things > with kids his own age and generally have the childhood
he'd
> been > denied -- but risked Harry's life at the hands of Voldemort
or
> the > DEs because Harry wouldn't be able to defend himself.
> >
>
> ------------------------I agree with that, and I think it's
> remarkable that he would prioritize that way--putting one, orphaned
> boy ahead of the rest of the world? It says a lot about
Dumbledore's
> compassion, I think.
>
> I also think that this conversation with Harry, when Dumbledore
> actually admits fault to one of his students is a turning point for
> both of them. Nobody (not even Dumbledore) is perfect--we found
that
> out about almost everyone in this book--but this conversation is
the
> first time that he treats Harry as an adult. He explains his
> reasoning for actions that made Harry feel left out, he explains
his
> own guilt for S's death, and he admits that he's not perfect.
That's
> huge for an adult who's been viewed as practically perfect in every
> way (a la Mary Poppins).
>
> And I further think this conversation will do a lot to assuage
> Harry's anger over the summer. He finally knows there's a reason
he's
> stuck there, and he's not being left out, either. I entirely
> understood his frustration and rage at the beginning of the book--
> he'd been through too much, paid too high a price to be shut out
all
> summer as if he were still a child. Someone mentioned that he's
> starting to make the transition from child to Hero (like Wart to
King
> Arthur), and this "real" conversation with the wizard he admires
most
> will help him, I believe.
>
> Just like the D.A. helped. I thought he seemed a lot less angry and
> more in control of himself once he had a solid, proactive thing to
DO
> to prepare for Wizard War #2. He needed a channel for all the fear
> and frustration. And I certainly DO hope the D.A. continues as an
> official Hogwart's group next year!
>
> And, gee, anyone else wondering? The D.A.s were prepared and
> practiced for their DADA O.W.L. exam. Anyone else curious how the
> Slytherins did after reading Umbridge's chapters all year but never
> pulling a wand to practice hexes??
Thanks for that I understand it now!!!!!!
Although I find that Dumbledore HAD to prioritise Harry over
everything else otherwise how would the world be rid of Voldemort
(after all a prophecy surely can't be changed, only Harry will kill
Voldemort-not Dumbledore or Neville or anyone else). If only the
incompetent Voldemort (he reminds me of the hooded claw in penelope
pitstop same high pitch laugh and not nearly as scary as he could or
should be-Bellatrix is the real evil warped mind-Voldemort is far too
rational) had sent one of his death eaters to kill harry and neville
none of this would have happened and Voldemort would rule the world
now.
As someone mentioned history is littered with incompetent dictators
who made the wrong decisions to their costs.
So really Dumbledore's plan didn't contain a flaw at all. Harry had
to be given a normal life as possible post 11, to develop LOVE the
one thing that will eventually topple Voldemort as dumbledore
believes this is the one thing Harry has above Voldemort and I
believe will ultimately be his downfall, in a touchy-feely kind of
hollywood ending.
The great thing is harry is the saviour by default, THAT perhaps give
hope to all of us.
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