OOP: the point of the death?

[Professor Granger]

No: HPFGUIDX 64642

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "kiricat2001" <Zarleycat at a...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "marinafrants" <rusalka at i...> 
> wrote:
> > I've been trying to sort out my thoughts about Sirius' death and 
> > whether or not it was pointless.  This is kind of difficult, since 
> > I'm so emotional about the whole thing, but I think I've managed to 
> > reach a few semi-rational conclusions.  Overall, I think that as 
> > things stand now, the death does seem pointless, but that's only 
> > because we won't see the actual point until the next book.  I fully 
> > expect JKR to follow up on the arch, the mirror, and the 
> > deliberately vague and inconclusive nature of Sirius' demise.
> 
> Yes, it was too unstructured for this to be the end.  I keep coming 
> back to the thought that if she really wanted to beat the fact into 
> our brains that he was dead, why not have Bellatrix AK him?  Why hit 
> him with an unspecified spell so that he falls through that veil? 
> 
>  Why leave it open to interpretation? To make it more surreal to 
> Harry? So he could struggle in Remus' arms waiting for Sirius to come 
> back through the veil?  Maybe so.  Maybe to just twist that emotinal 
> knife a little more so there is that sense of "No, what I'm seeing 
> isn't true!"  
> 
> After all, the first death Harry attended in which he was fully 
> cognizant of what was happening was Cedric's. Harry didn't have an 
> emotional tie to Cedric so a simple AK neatly gets the point across 
> that Voldemort and his followers are back, they're evil, and, oh, by 
> the way, life is unfair.
>> I strongly
> > suspect we'll be hearing from Padfoot again, in one way or another.
> 
> Oh, yes. I'm in total agreement with this.  In one form or another, 
> Padfoot will be back.  
> 
> Marianne
 
 
I think that when it came right down to it, Sirius' death was just as much about Sirius and James than about Harry.  Despite knowing Harry for 2 years by then, he was still seing Harry as a carbon copy of his father, mostly because of his physical appearance, and the knowledge of his patronous.  Harry's refusal to meet during the Hogsmead weekend drove a wedge between them, as did Harry's knowledge of some of the things James and co. did to snape during school.  
 
As Harry grows away from his idealistic image of his father, he grows apart from Sirius as well, who knew James best, and was most like him.  So while Padfoot's death might have hurt Harry in numerous ways, I suspect that Sirius's death is a more symbolic way of Harry ending his hero-worshiping James, a step that has to be done in order for him to find who he really is.
 
I don't think that we will hear from Padfoot again, since even in the wizarding world, dead people stay dead, as much as we don't want them too.  Nearly Headless Nick said that people who don't want to leave the earth become ghosts, and that Sirus would not be comming back as a ghost.  In that scene, it is hinted that there is a life beyond death in the wizarding world, and Sirius would have known that, and would care more to be united with his long lost best friend than to stay around and be an immortal, non-solid being.  He would see everyone else eventually if he didn't come back.  
 
Besides, it would be too predictable if he were to come back.  And predictability is something that JKR has traditionally stayed away from in her books.  But, while I don't think we will be hearing from Padfoot anymore, I do think we will hear more about him as Remus Lupin and Harry mourn his death along with the rest of the order.
 
~*~Professor Granger~*~


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