OOP: MWPP WERE ALL GRYFFINDORS! (was MWPP and their houses) -small spoilers.

[Tim]

No: HPFGUIDX 65149

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "corinthum" <kkearney at s...> 
wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Kirstini wrote:
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> 
> > 1.) JKR confirmed that James was a Chaser on the Gryf Quidditch
> team.
> 
> Actually, she confirmed he was a Chaser.  Her reply didn't include 
the
> words "on the Gryffindor team".  I know many people interpret her 
lack
> of contradiction as affirmation, but I think it's still open for
> argument.
> 
> > 2.)Lupin was made "the prefect" in an effort to influence the 
others 
> > for the better. Only one fifth year boy is made prefect from each 
> > house, and the way this passage was worded (my boyfriend has a 
very 
> > tight grip on my copy at the moment, so I can't quote) made me 
> > assume that only one of MWPP could have been made "the" prefect .
> 
> Well, assuming Dumbledore really did want Lupin to discipline James
> and Sirius, making them all prefects (from different houses) 
wouldn't
> have achieved much.  
> 
> > 3.)In the Pensieve, they are shown banded together against a boy 
who 
> > a) is a Slytherin, b)believes in purity of blood, which they 
don't. 
> > Not conclusive, I know, but could PP have achieved such 
popularity 
> > coming from a house which stood against their ideals? Would they 
be 
> > picking on someone from their own house to such an extent in a 
book 
> > where the concerns raised by Hermione and the Sorting Hat about 
> > inter-house rivalry dividing pupils were constructed as a central 
> > theme?
> 
> I have a feeling, based on Lily's comments, that they didn't 
restrict
> their bullying to Slytherins.
> 
> 
> > 6.)In PoA, Lupin says "Well, let's drink to a Gryffindor victory 
> > against Ravenclaw! Not that I'm supposed to take sides, as a 
> > teacher..." (PoA, Bloomsbury, p182). This suggests to me that 
were 
> > Lupin not a teacher, he'd still be supporting Gryffindor - just 
to 
> > support his friend James' son? Or because he was one himself? 
Former 
> > Hogwartians are notoriously partisan.
> 
> Actually, heads of houses are notoriously partisan, not former
> Hogwartian teachers in general.  Who knows, perhaps they get a raise
> if their house wins, not to mention the gloating rights that both
> McGonagall and Snape seem to hold over each other's heads.  I think 
it
> very possible that Lupin was in a different house, but due to his
> growing mentorship with Harry, wanted to support Harry's team this
> time.
> 
> 
> > There you go, my argument. Let the picking commence.
> 
> I'm done now.  Your arguments are persuasive but still
> circumstantial.  I'm hoping they were in different houses, simply to
> add interest, although somehow I doubt it.
> 
> -Corinth

The thing that really gets me about the different house theory is how 
did James, Sirius, and Peter learn to be animagus (sp) if they were 
in different houses without anyone else (except Lupin) knowing about 
it??  How could they sneak out of their respective common rooms, at 
night, and meet up to get into the Shrieking Shack??  Putting them 
all in the same house (Gryffindor) you can train in the dorm room at 
night (it was only the four of them), use James's invisibility cloak 
to get out of the castle (we've seen the trio do that lots of times), 
change into your respective animals, get into the Shrieking Shack, 
and have a merry old time.  I've thought they had to be in the same 
house since POA.  OOP just reaffirmed it to me with Lupin being 
chosen as prefect out of the four of them.  If they were in different 
houses, it is possible that none of them would have been a prefect.  
By saying that Lupin was picked over James and Sirius (notice how 
they even overlooked Peter back then) to try and level some control 
over them clearly indicates that they were in the same house.

Tim