[HPforGrownups] OOP: Re: Hermione and also Snape

[Jenserai Bariman]

No: HPFGUIDX 65236

Trina:
>And having just re-read the bullying scene of Snape's worst memory, I
>have to say that although James did seem a bit of a git, at first all
>he did was Expelliarmus and Impediementia.  Snape, OTH, cursed James
>while his back was turned AND physically harmed James. "...there was
>a flash of light and a gash appeared on the side of James's face,
>spattering his robes with blood."  James showed at least *some* self
>control in that his retaliation was only turning Snape upside down.

Perhaps you should do another re-read.
To make it easier here's an outline of the events:
James: All right, Snivellus?
Snape: *whirls about tries to get his wand up to defend himself*
James: Expelliarmus!
BLACK: Impedimenta!
Snape: *Struggles on ground, can't get up because of the spell*
James: *glances at nearby girls*
Snape: *lamely threatens James and Black*
Black: Insults, name calling
Snape: *swears, still can't defend himself without his wand*
JAMES: Wash out your mouth. Scourgify!
Snape: *GAGS, CHOKES*
Lily: *attempts to intervene on Snape's behalf, asks Jame's what Snape did*
James: Well, it's more the fact that he _exists_, if you know what I mean...
Audience: Laughs, except for  Lupin and Lily
Lily: *name calling directed at James, and another plea to leave Snape 
alone*
James *attempt to blackmail Lily into dating him*
Lily: *refuses, insults James*
Black: *notices that Snape has managed to get his wand back*
Snape: *uses spell to cut James' face*
James: Hangs Snape in the air, putting him on display for the crowd*
Crowd: *cheers, laughs*
Lily: *continues to try and get James to stop*
James: *Drops Snape, puts him in a body bind
Lily: *Shouts at James, pulls out her wand*
James: *threatens Lily*
Lily: *asks James to release Snape from the body bind*
James: *taunts Snape*
Snape: I don't need help from filthy little Mudbloods like her!
Lily: *assures Snape that she won't help him again, taunts, name calling*
James: *threatens Snape*
Lily: *gets mad at James again, says James is as bad as Snape*
James: *tells her he'd never call her a mudblood*
Lily: *insults James, says he makes her sick, leaves*
James: *calls after her and is ignored.* What is it wither her?
Black Reading between the lines, I'd say she thinks you're a bit conceited 
mate.
James: Right. right- *Hangs Snape upside down again. Seems intent on 
removing Snape's underwear*
Present day Snape: *pulls Harry from the pensive*

It may just be me, but think James did a bit more that just a few hexes hm?

>Not to say that I didn't feel sorry for the 15 yo Snape, but in
>recent discussions Snape's actions have been overlooked.

Actually they really haven't. They've been mentioned several times in fact. 
So, once again, in Snape's shoes, I would have been prepared to do almost 
anything to get away, and I think I'm not in the minority on this.

>I still say
>he needs to get over his anti-James/Harry gripe and accept that Harry
>is not his father.  Snape is an ADULT for heaven's sake! Just my
>opinion, anyhow.

Yes, he does. I totally agree. Hopefully what he saw of Harry's memories and 
the fact that Harry wasn't "having fun" in the pensieve will have an effect 
on him. Perhaps they have already. I still think he was acting decidedly 
un-hateful towards Harry in his last scene in the book. I see great 
potential for the two of them once Snape realizes Harry is nothing like 
James and once Harry realizes he shouldn't blame Snape for Black's death.

-Jens

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