OOP: Re: Why Harry will die
sueeeyqbong
sue at simiant.com
Sun Jun 29 14:11:23 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 65668
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "goingoutsleepwalking"
<goingoutsleepwalking at x> wrote:
> BIG SNIPPING TO SAVE SPACE...MY REPLY IS AT THE BOTTOM)
> ceathena:
> > Also, we have now seen this veil. Dumbledore has already told
> > Harry that death is just 'the next great adventure'. It would
> > make perfect sense for Harry - after he has slain Voldemort - to
> > simply step onto the dais and through the veil. The final
> > chapter could possibly be entitled "The Next Great
> > Adventure". And everyone can simply wave goodbye as he
> > steps through to be with Sirius and his Mum and Dad, and whoever
JKR
> > will kill off that Harry loves. You know she will...
>
> Carol:
> > While I admit this is certainly a possibility, it's too
> > "Hollywood" for me. It makes me think of the movie
> > "Cocoon." And I would hate to see that kind of ending
> > to the series. I keep thinking, "What's the
> > point?" And unlike the ending in Cocoon, the ending
> > suggested here is way too much like suicide for my taste. It
> > also, to me, would show a weakness, an inability at last of
Harry to
> > come to terms with life and its difficulties and struggles.
Even
> > if it comes at the end of a struggle against Voldemort, where
is the
> > honor in this kind of death? I would really hate that message.
>>>
>
>
> That ending *is* suicide, and I have already posted on why Harry
*will
> not* commit suicide (but once again, suicide is *NOT* noble or
romantic or
> anything like that. If you think it is you are sick. Actually,
you're
> probably just ignorant, as in you wouldn't have any first hand
idea at all
> and thus shouldn't talk about it. If that is offensive, that's
too bad,
> because I feel that I have suffered enough to have the right to
say that).
> Also, I recall reading a post that someone wrote that went
something like
> "Haven't any of you ever lost people you love?? That doesn't mean
you
> don't want to go on living." Having lost one of the most
important people
> in the world to me, I firmly agree with this. And look at Jo.
She's lost
> her mother and has suffered from depression but she hasn't killed
herself.
>
> Sorry for the momentary extreme anger. As I said, I kind of have
a right
> to my anger, so I'm sure you'll forgive me for my bitterness.
>
> goingoutsleepwalking
SUEEEYQBONG'S REPLY:
Just to add my two knuts as to the suicide thing...Harry dying at
the end of the series definitely seems at least as strong a
possibility as Harry surviving, but I really really can't see him
choosing to die. Sacrificing himself if it's necessary to kill
Voldemort / save someone's life...yes, I can see that happening
perhaps. But sacrificing himself just because he was too tired of
struggling and wanted to see the people he's lost - NO! This is a
CHILDREN's book, and any rEsponsible children's author would NEVER
write a scene which could be interpreted as advocating suicide as an
ok option. It just won't happen. Perhaps Harry wil be greatly
tempted to give it all up and walk through the veil, but he will
realise that carrying on living is the bravest thing to do, and will
choose not to.
Hang in there 'goingoutsleepwalking'. I know how you feel.
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