Voldemort's Wand (one very small spoiler, clearly marked)

M.Clifford valkyrievixen at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 30 15:28:50 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 66019

Sorry to shoot the big hole Grey Wolf but should not a pigs tail and 
a fire have come out during priori incantatem if this were so?
I think between Bertha Jorkins and Lily/James appearances.

Valky


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Grey Wolf" <greywolf1 at j...> 
wrote:
> "flurykick" wrote:
> > My question is where did Voldemort get his wand?  In the 
graveyard 
> > scene in GoF, there's a visual history of the wand's spells when 
it 
> > connects with it's brother wand in Harry's hand. It is the same 
wand 
> > used to kill the Potters and it is next used to kill Bertha 
Jorkins.  
> > So, how did it get from Godric's Hollow to Albania?
> > Voldemort could not have carried it out of the wreckage of the 
> > Potter's house.  He did not have a body after his curse 
backfired.  
> > Was someone with him when Voldemort went to the Potter's house? 
Did 
> > they pick it up and leave a one year old alive in the ruins?
> > Where was the wand for 13 years while Voldemort languished in 
some 
> > forgotten forest?  
> > How did it get to Albania?  
> > I would assume it came with Wormtail because it was used on 
Bertha 
> > Jorkins just after Wormtail returned to his master.  
> > So if it was Wormtail, how did he get it?  Was he the one who 
went to 
> > the Potter's house that Halloween night?  And if it was Wormtail, 
> > where did he keep the darn thing for the thirteen years he was 
> > concealed as Scabbers? 
> > I apologize if this has been discussed previously. But I look 
forward 
> > to your thoughts on this.  Is it just a mistake or will we find 
in 
> > future books that Wormtail is even more loathsome than we 
thought? 
> > 
> > 
> > "flurykick"
> 
> The Grey Wolf puts on his "FAQ" badge and says:
> Hello, flurykick, welcome to the list. As you imagined, the 
question 
> *has* come up before. It was quite some time back (and a great deal 
of 
> posts), so chances of finding something through yahoomort are close 
to 
> nil. So let me give you a run down of what I remember to be the 
most 
> popular theories:
> 
> · The generic DE: Voldemort didn't go alone to the Potters house - 
some 
> DE went along to observe and hold his master's cape or something, 
and 
> when everything went to pot he had the presence of mind to rescue 
the 
> wand and keep it. Voldemort/Peter would've asked it back at the 
time of 
> the Berta Jorkins interrogatory/torture. A top contender for this 
DE is 
> Malfoy, due to his collecting habits. I find this theory unlikely, 
> myself.
> 
> · Peter: As above, but Peter was there because he had to reveal the 
> Secret Keeper. Keeps back beacuse he's a coward and cannot face the 
> people he just sold to Voldemort. When everything goes wrong, he 
comes 
> up with the "simulated death" plan, which requires him to leave his 
> wand behind, so he takes Voldemort's wand with him to have a spare 
one.
> Peter would've kept the wand hidden (in his underwear, for example) 
for 
> 13 years until he finds Voldemort. Cons: recent canon (SPOILER 
ALERT 
> --> skip to next point) tells us that Peter's presence probably 
wasn't 
> necessary, he only had to write the place in a parchment, so he had 
no 
> reason to be there (particularly if he felt guilty and prefered not 
to 
> be involved further).
> 
> · Hagrid: He is the first to arrive to the crime scene, 
canonically. He 
> looks in the rubble for Harry. He is not allowed his own wand, and 
his 
> old one has been snapped in two - and yet he enjoys using magic as 
much 
> as the next guy. Voldemort was close enough to the baby that his 
wand 
> must have been close by (and since the house exploded outwards, 
Harry 
> and the wand were probably more or less in the centre of the 
> devastation, lying in the open). According to this theory, Hagrid 
picks 
> up that wand (can't let it to go to waste, a perfectly good wand), 
and 
> hides it in his cabin for the next years - maybe inside his 
umbrella 
> (many have pointed out that a broken wand cannot possibly work as 
well 
> as that umbrella does). Peter spends several months in Hagrid's 
hut, 
> hidding from Black, so he has ample time to find it and hide it. 
>From 
> then on, it proceeds as above -> Peter hides it until he finds 
> Voldemort.
> 
> Hope that helps,
> 
> Grey Wolf, who advices that there might be more theories he has 
> forgotten about.







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