Ron is Dumbledore? More ammo

[brinforest]

No: HPFGUIDX 53220


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "piskmiffo <piskmiffo at h...>" 
<piskmiffo at h...> wrote:

> What if Dumbledore is the future Ron?
> 
> Let's say that Voldemort is about to kill Harry and noone knows 
where 
> they are, except for Ron, who is with them.
> Ron, desperate to save Harry, tries going back in time to do just 
> this, but accidently goes too far back.
> About 130 years too far.
> 
> When he realizes where (well, when) he is, who would he first try 
to 
> find? Marty in BTTF tries to find the doc. Well, the doc in this 
> case, is Dumbledore.
> But he can't find Dumbledore. Dumbledore is a tall, redhaired 
(well, 
> auburn in CoS) ~17-year old. Ron is a tall, redhaired 17-year old.
> Ron already knows everything that has happened, and he knows that 
the 
> only way to save Harry is to wait 130 years, since he can't, for 
some 
> reason, go back to the future.
> 
> That's when it hits him. Why did Dumbledore always seem to know 
> everything beforehand? Because HE was with Harry when it happened, 
> and the things he didn't see for himself, Harry told him. 
> Ron is Dumbledore.
> 


Wow, the chills I got from this. I've heard the Ron-is-Dumbledore 
theory before, but I never got hit by it as hard as now. I've got 
some points to add from PS/SS, which I immediately started going 
through (if I were to do the same with the rest of the books, I'd be 
writing this for the rest of the day):

Both Dumbledore and Ron are described as having long noses.

Both Dumbledore and Ron are described as liking sweets.

Dumbledore is the only one Voldemort is afraid of - why?? Maybe V 
somehow found this out who knows how long ago, and has been on a 
mission to change history ever since? 

Here are some Dumbledore quotes that, IMO, sound very different from 
before once you read them with this theory in mind:

1. "I would trust Hagrid with my life," said Dumbledore. (SS p. 10)

2. "He'll have that scar forever."

3. "Good luck, Harry," he murmured. (I could cry at this...)

4. This is what really blows my mind: the Mirror of Erised 
conversation between Dumbledore and Harry in SS p. 170: *Dumbledore* 
tells *Harry* what Ron saw in the mirror and not the other way 
round! And everything he says after that, before they part, sounds 
downright eerie now.

5. The conversation between Dumbledore and Harry towards the end of 
SS, when Dumbledore gives the "death is but the next great 
adventure" speech. He goes on to talk about how humans make wrong 
choices, and - "hummed a little and smiled at the ceiling." Is he 
fighting tears here? Furthermore, after he describes how powerful 
love leaves a mark of protection, the same thing happens. 

6. Something to watch out for: Ron getting a vomit-flavored Every 
Flavor Bean!

I'd love, love, love to spend the rest of my day on this, but 
aaarrgh! Got to get some work done! Just a couple more things, 
piskmiffo - I really like how your theory can nicely be combined 
with other Ron theories, even the Clash of Heirs one from yesterday, 
but not Dead!Ron and Evil!Ron ones. I find this way more appealing 
because of the HUGE importance it gives to Ron and his personality, 
and the background it gives to Dumbledore's character. And the 
future of Dumbledore - what if Harry were to find out about this 
just before Dumbledore dies, for instance? AFTER Ron is gone? And 
what if Hermione were to follow Ron... (uh-oh, SHIP slipping into 
view) :)


Brin