Ron is Dumbledore? More ammo

morgan_le_fey787 mazie123 at msn.com
Wed Mar 5 22:57:16 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 53255

Melissa wrote:
> 
> If Ron is the cause and if he is killed will Dumbledore (the 
result) cease to 
> exist? 

**the following is kind of long and more than a bit theoretical.  If 
you find it to be a bit over your head, go on to the las paragraph, 
it summarizes everything without going into detail** :)

Assuming that Albus Dumbledore is Ron at some point in Ron's future, 
I don't see anyway in which Ron can be killed in the first place.  
This gets a bit into physics and time travel paradoxes, but this is 
similar to the Grandfather Paradox (in which a hypothetical person 
goes backwards in time and kills their own grandfather before their 
parent on that side of the family was concieved.  The question then 
opened is what happens to you if your parent were never born).  One 
solution to the Grandfather Paradox is this: 

you can go back in time as often and as far back as you like, but you 
will still never be able to kill your grandfather.  You want to go 
back in time and be a cause factor (you want to cause your 
grandfather to be dead) but since the effect of you NOT killing your 
granfather (your birth) has already happened, you cannot go back and 
change it.  If you tried, you would simply fail every time you 
tried.  For some quasi-real-life-application of this solution to the 
Grandfather Paradox, see the movie The Time Machine, based on a book 
by Jules Verne

By applying this solution to the problam of Ron dying and Dumbledore 
disappearing, we see that Ron has already gon backwards in time (the 
proof of this is Dumbledore's presence.  If Ron didn't go back in 
time, Dumbledore wouldn't exsist in the first place, much less 
disappear) therefore we conclude that he must servive to at least the 
ripe old age of 150 as we last saw him in canon.

**To conclude, Dumbledore can die at any time in books 5 6 and 7, but 
Ron cannot die, because he must live long enough to go back in time 
because he has already done it.**

~*Morgan*~








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