[HPforGrownups] Re: Ron is Dumbledore? More ammo

Kathryn Cawte kcawte at blueyonder.co.uk
Thu Mar 6 02:11:04 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 53267

 
 
Tanya said -

As long as we're watching for clues to Ron!Dumbledore, keep an eye 
out for Broken-Nose!Ron.  DD's nose was also described as looking 
like it had been broken twice. 

Now me - 
I think that would have to happen after he went back in time because modern
magical medicine doesn't seem like it would leave any trace of the event. 

Then Snowwy said -
Wow I have thought for awhile of this possibility but I took it much
farther because I also thought that McGonagal could have been Hermione.
The hairstyle she wears could have been to hide Hermione's bushy hair.
The trouble I had with this is that JK says D is around 150 and
McGonagal is around 70.  So unless they went back at different times
but arrived at the same spot my theory doesn't work.

Me again -
well presumably something went wrong with the time travel both for Ron to go
so far back and for him to be stuck so maybe hermione was travelling with
him and they got separated. When Harry and Hermione use the Time Turner to
rescue Sirius Hermione puts the chain round both their necks. Does anyone
say what would happen if Harry slipped out of the chain midway (would he zap
back to the present or woiuld he only travel back to the point where he lost
contact with the TT) ? So maybe they use an advanced TT (because they'd be
turning the darn thing over a heck of a lot of times to go back any
significant amount of time) and accidentally set it for 150 years instead of
whatever they were aiming for and then Hermione lets go of it halfway
through the journey so she only goes back 70. Or actually, assuming they do
it after school, 130 years and 30 years. Hermione wouldn't have to know in
advance that Ron was Dumbledore - she'd just automatically seek him out for
help.

/pisk then worried -

I'd really like it to be true, and I hope that Ron!Dumbledore is 
either forgetful about minor details (because of age or whatever) or 
that he lies to McGonagall. Because otherwise there is something in 
the first chapter of PS that doesn't quite fit.

"No, thank you," said Professor McGonagall coldly, as though she 
didn't think this was the moment for sherbet lemons. "As I say, even 
if You-Know-Who has gone –"
"My dear Professor, surely a sensible person like yourself can call 
him by his name? All this `You-Know-Who' nonsense – for eleven years 
I have been trying to persuade people to call him by his proper name: 
Voldemort." 
Professor McGonagall flinched, but Dumbledore, who was unsticking two 
sherbet lemons, seemed not to notice. "It all gets so confusing if we 
keep saying `You-Know-Who'. [- !Here comes the key part! -]I have 
never seen any reason to be frightened of saying Voldemort's name."


Well, never is never, but I sure hope he's senile.


Me yet again - 

Well if you're 150 and you haven't called Voldemort You-Know-Who for over
130 years I don't think never is that much of an exaggeration. He's probably
trying to forget his youthful foolishness.

It would explain why he insisted Harry live with the Dursleys - after all he
knows in advance that Harry will make it to 11 if he does (because for Albus
this has already  happened, Oh good grief this is confusing) so it's a
guarantee he will be safe. I would have to wonder though why if this was all
true he didn't find a way to stop Sirius from spending all that time in
Azkaban. Allowing Peter to hang around might have something to do with the
theory that Harry saving his life damages Voldemort's resurrection in GoF -
hmm that could explain Sirius too couldn't it. He knows Sirius will survive
Azkaban and feels that Sirius would willingly sacrifice those 12 years if it
would ensure Harry had an advantage over Voldemort at a later stage. You
know the more I think about this the more the Dumbledore part fits. I think
Hermione!McGonagall might need some more work.

Oh and another thought - it would explain why h trusts Snape so much -
becuase he knows Snape spends all his time protecting Harry. And why does
Snape do this? Because James saved Snape from a werewolf who was only at
school thanks to Albus. Sirius wasn't expelled so seems to have got off
lightly for his role in that - but if Albus wanted he whole thing to happen
then that's understandable. And it explains why Albus seems to have a
pro-Gryffindor bias.

K





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