Dumbledore is Ron?

Fred Waldrop fredwaldrop at yahoo.com
Fri Mar 7 09:34:31 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 53368

Hello all, Fred Waldrop here;

I have been following this thread closely, and to be honest, I am 
stumped pretty much.
One one hand, I can see where so many think Ron is Dumbledore. 
Because only Harry and Ron know some of what Dumbledore seems to know 
(ie. what Ron saw in the mirror of Erised). But, on the other hand, 
there are times that Dumbledore should know things that Harry and Ron 
know of, and he had drawn a blank (ie. when Barty Crouch Jr/Moody 
talks about taking the Marauders map from Harry before Snape gets it).

Ok, once more I do have a little twist to throw in here.But first, I 
want to make a couple points:
1)How many times is "time" talked about, watches, broken watches, 
clocks and time tuners. It seems that time is something that is most 
important to JKR and the HP books, at least to me.
2) In GoF(page 617, US), "Mrs Weasley was intrigued by the wamping 
willow, which had been planted after she left school, and reminisced 
at length about the gameskeeper before Hagrid, a man called Ogg."

Now according to the Lexicon, Hagrid's timeline was:
1929, born.  
1932, His mother, Fridwulfa abandoned his family. 
1940, he starts Hogwarts.
1942, His father dies.
1943, He is falsely accused of opening the CoS, expelled and given 
the gameskeeper position.
So, this means that Arthur and Molly go to Hogwarts, and *GRADUATES 
BEFORE* 1943. Exactly how old are the Weasleys? They would have had 
to be born no later than 1925, more likely around 1920 to 1923 seeing 
as how Molly does not talk about going to school with Hagrid  
(1943 - 18 years old when graduating = 1925). And I do not think 
someone would forget Hagrid once you meet him.
 
What I have come up with is, two time lines going on at once. The 
Lexicon backs up what I am saying, sorta. When you look up Arthur or 
Molly Weasley, and look up when they went to Hogwarts, they say: 

"And here's why this question gets to me. There is one niggling 
little comment in GF that suggests to me that--brace yourself--there 
just might be TWO time lines going on here. Molly Weasley fondly 
recalls a man named Ogg being the groundskeeper when she went to 
Hogwarts. Now she's older than Sirius and Lupin, granted, but not so 
much older that she would have gone to Hogwarts before Hagrid and Tom 
Riddle, which was fifty years ago. After Hagrid was expelled, 
however, he was given the groundskeeper position. How does this Ogg 
fellow fit into the picture then?"

So, if there are two time line going on, Dumbledore may be Ron, but 
at a much older age than he is in the 1990's when he, Ron, is going 
to school with Harry. In other words, Dumbledore might be Ron from 
the future, not Ron going back into the past.

So, what do you think?

Fred Waldrop 








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