Timeline (Re: Dumbledore is Ron?)
GulPlum
hp at plum.cream.org
Fri Mar 7 13:42:06 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 53371
Fred Waldrop wrote:
>Now according to the Lexicon, Hagrid's timeline was:
<snip>
>1943, He is falsely accused of opening the CoS, expelled and given
>the gameskeeper position.
>So, this means that Arthur and Molly go to Hogwarts, and *GRADUATES
>BEFORE* 1943. Exactly how old are the Weasleys? They would have had
>to be born no later than 1925, more likely around 1920 to 1923 seeing
>as how Molly does not talk about going to school with Hagrid
>(1943 - 18 years old when graduating = 1925). And I do not think
>someone would forget Hagrid once you meet him.
Not necessarily. That whole line of reasoning is based on an assumption
that there was only ever one gamekeeper at a time.
Besides, would a 13 year-old with limited experience and education (and the
stigma of expulsion) immediately be given a very responsible job at the
school from which he's just been expelled? I think not.
Sure, Hagrid *says* that he was "kept on as gamekeeper" but knowing him,
he could have meant "kept on as *a* gamekeeper".
I see Ogg as quite advanced in his years at the time the Weasley parents
were at Hogwarts and although he still had the title of Keeper of the Keys
and was in charge of the grounds, Hagrid was under his wing and was being
trained up and eventually took over when Ogg retired or died.
Although Molly doesn't say that Hagrid was around during her schooldays,
she doesn't say that he *wasn't*, either. Although there's no direct
interaction between her and Hagrid, she never asks who he is, so it's
perfectly feasible that Hagrid was there during her school days, but the
Keeper of Keys everyone knew and recognised was Ogg. He sat at the High
Table at feasts and he was the one everyone knew to be in charge, but
Hagrid was around as well.
I have absolutely no problem with the Weasleys having gone to school well
after Hagrid and Riddle, especially as this conclusion is reached largely
on the grounds that Hagrid dropped an indefinite article (had he said
"*kept on as a* gamekeeper", we wouldn't be having this conversation)...
So, what's more likely: that Hagrid drops an indefinite article, or that a
13 year-old (if large) boy is given one of the most important non-academic
jobs at a major school when he's expelled?
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