Percy the traitor?
mitchbailey82
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Fri Mar 7 20:48:06 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 53398
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, The Sparrow
<basementgirl74 at y...> wrote:
>
'*You* don´t care about Ginny,' said Ron, whose
ears
where reddening
now. '*You´re* just worried I´m going to mess up
your
chances of being
Head Boy.'
'Five points from Gryffindor!' Percy said tersely,
fingering his prefect badge,'And I hope it teaches you
a lesson! No more *detective work*, or I´ll write to
Mum!'
Chamber of Secrets,chapter nine page 119.
This quote and many before has tripped my brain into the theory that
Percy is more than he seems, or at least deceptive. Note
Percy doesn't jump to the defence that he *does*
care about Ginny, just that Ron deserves points off for
questioning him.
>
Me:
Firstly he's just seen Ron coming out of not only a GIRLS toilet but
also an OUT OF ORDER girls toilet. This is two things that Ron has
done wrong, and also Percy is aware that Ron is in enough trouble
over the car incident already without adding to it. When I was at
school it was a prefects job to make sure that nobody misbehaved in
the toilets (at least during break time). Percy's trying to do his
job as a prefect only Ron as most young boys would sees it as
personal I'd like to place my bets and say that Percy would have
reacted the same if it had been any other boy that he'd caught in
there basically he's doing his job. However Ron thinks that Percy
should make an exception with him as he's his brother he can't see
that Percy's given him the chance to walk away Scot free I bet that
Percy would have taken points away straight away if it hadn't been
Ron but Percy tries to let Ron off with a good talking to. However
Ron then goes and not only throws it back in his face and questions
his authority as a prefect but to add insult to injury he also
questions whether Percy cares for Ginny (who I believe Percy likes
the best out of his siblings). If you ask me I think Ron's lucky that
it's not more that 5 points he loses.
I believe it is clear that Percy does care for Ginny not only does he
make her take some of Madam Pomfreys cold medicine when she looks
like she's got a cold. Also when she is taken into the chamber after
he's done his duty as the oldest Weasley brother there and Owled Mrs
Weasley he is so upset that he hides away in his dorm. It is not his
lack of feelings for Ginny that makes him hide away from the other
Weasley brothers but is they way they make him feel like an outcast
that makes him do this is does not feel that he can confide in them.
Whereas with Ginny he trusts her enough to believe her when she says
she won't tell the others about him and Penelope. The only other
Weasley sibling we have seen in confide in is Bill when Bill asks him
how the Cauldron report is going he says badly now compare this to
what he tells his father at dinner.
The Sparrow
>
Percy values his job a great deal, and Ron has said
before (I don't know where the quote is) that he
wouldn't be surprised if Percy sold them out if they
broke the rules.
>
Me:
This is Ron's point of view and Ron isn't exactly unbiased, as he's
his brother. I know many siblings who don't really get on with each
other (some of whose relationships have improved once they've left
home). It is not uncommon for siblings to say bad things about each
other and not really mean it.
Percy has shown his care for Ron he went out into the lake in front
of colleagues from the ministry to help Ron out of the lake he was
anxious before the task began when Harry was late for the task.
I don't believe that Percy is a death eater supporter either during
the quiditch world cup he went out with his brothers and Dad and
tried to help save the muggles from the DE's. This in my opinion
shows bravery it confirmed for me that Percy did belong in Griffendor
it also pleasantly surprised me. Percy like many of the Weasley's is
stubborn and will stand up for what he believes in.
His relationship with Ron is not great neither think that highly of
each other at least not with each other knowledge however whilst Ron
shows his dislike for Percy outside of Percy's view Percy has shown
outside of Ron's (Ron was unconscious) view that he does care for him
(the lake incident again).
Percy doesn't have that great a relationship with his Dad, basically
Percy couldn't get his Dad's attention and approval by being good 12
OWLS, headboy etc. but the twins and Ron get attention for doing bad
thing i.e. driving the car, practical jokes (twins), going out of
bonds to face danger (Ron with Harry). So Percy's grown fed up and if
you can't get good attention what's wrong with bad attention at
least it's attention. However Percy is very close to his Mum and his
Mum has shown huge anti Fudge feelings, anti DE feelings and has
shown huge care and pride in family values and sticking together as a
family. Percy cares too much for her to want to hurt her feelings in
going against the family and selling them out. Also he trusts her and
her opinions.
The Sparrow
>
Another quote at the start of PoA got
me thinking too.
>
Me:
POA in my opinion showed just how much Percy trusts respects and
idealises Dumbledore.
Percy is proud to be headboy and follow Dumbledore's orders if he did
not respect Dumbledore's orders he would not be so proud at following
them.
They way he asks the questions of Dumbledore during the camp out in
the great hall in POA shows respect Percy is eager to here what
Dumbledore has to say.
Also in PS CH7 after the sorting:
"'Is he a bit mad?' he asked Percy uncertainly.
`Mad?' said Percy airily. `He's a genius! Best wizard in the world!
But he is a bit mad, yes.'"
Here JKR has gone out of her way to show just how much Percy thinks
of Dumbledore. I've said it before I believe that it is this respect
for Dumbledore that will help keep Percy on the Right side.
The Sparrow
>
I can't give you verbatim (my
housemates busy with my copy!)but when Harry catches
up with the Weasley's in the Leaky Cauldron Percy
approaches Harry with a tone which JKR describes *as
though he'd never met him*.
>
Me:
I've always taken this scene to be Percy's way of telling Harry that
he's headboy and that he's proud of it. I believe this is Percy's way
of showing off. :-)
I'd like to make a point that in PS it is the twins that make a point
of introducing themselves to Harry and not Percy even though Percy
knows that Harry's on the train this has always made me a bit
suspicious of the twins.
The Sparrow
>
Perhaps Percy is not who
he seems to be.....
>
Me:
No I believe that we can expect a lot more from Percy then we give
him credit for. There is a lot more to him then we see, some of it
only pokes through occasionally and sometimes you have to look
carefully for it but I believe that JKR has given us several hints
through Percy's behaviour that we should not necessarily take Ron's
view point of Percy.
Michelle
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