V & Lily/Heir/basilisk wand/magic theory/FleurQuidditch/Bill eldest/Marauder

Catlady (Rita Prince Winston) catlady at wicca.net
Sat Mar 8 09:25:28 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 53423

Nobody's Rib wrote:

<< Take into account that we're dealing with the Darkest Wizard - 
isn't showing even the smallest bit of mercy (giving Lily the chance 
to step aside and not be killed) a HUGE thing? He doesn't even treat 
Wormtail as well as this, and look what Wormtail has done for him! So 
what has Lily done for Voldemort that deserves this special treatment? 
>>

Here are some theories that were suggested long ago:

a) Snape was in love with Lily. When he learned that Voldemort 
planned to kill the Potters, he begged to be given Lily as his 
'slave'. Since Voldemort's plan did not REQUIRE Lily's death AND 
Snape was a somewhat valuable follower, Voldemort gave that promise 
and even made a token effort to keep it.

b) Pettigrew was in love with Lily. The way that Voldemort recruited 
him was by promising to give him Lily (he said in the Shrieking Shack 
that he had served Voldemort from fear of being killed because he 
knew it would further irritate Sirius, Remus, AND Harry for him to 
admit that he had agreed to kill James and Harry in order to get 
Lily).

c) There was a prophecy that Lily's son would win the war for his 
father's side, which both is why he wanted to kill Harry and why he 
wanted to have a son by Lily.

d) ( ... this is so distasteful ... ) Some people think that Lily was 
Voldemort's daughter and he had some paternal affection *yuck*

Brin wrote:

<< But did you already consider the big, looming, morbid fact that 
comes with this theory? That an heir is the *oldest child*? >>

No, an heir is whatever person is chosen by the person who wrote the 
will. I've already mentioned that I believe that the Heir of 
Gryffindor doesn't have to be related to ol' Godric at all, but 
simply to demonstrate that his/her values and actions are enough like 
Gryffindor's values and actions that Gryffindor would find him/her a 
worthy Heir. Even in cases where the heir is required to be a blood 
relative (I consider it POSSIBLE that Salazar was sufficiently 
obsessed with bloodlines that he required that his Heir must be one 
of his descendents), it doesn't have to be the oldest son; it can be 
whichever descendent first meets whatever requirement Salazar set.

Seventh Squeal wrote:

<< I thought it would be cool if some of the Slytherins, maybe even 
Snape, had a Basilisk tooth core. >>

Those wands would have had to be made by someone other than 
Ollivander, as Ollivander said very clearly that HE only uses three 
types of cores: unicorn tail hair, phoenix feather, and dragon 
heartstring. For a fanfic, I invented a sword and a spear that were 
really wands because they had been made with basilisk skin cores.
 
Ffred manawyddan wrote:

<<  There's no reference in the books (at least so far) to 
_theory_ of magic >>

One of the first year textbooks is: Magical Theory by Adalbert 
Waffling. Some of the homework essays seem theoretical to me, such 
as the assignment in GoF to write about the modifications needed for 
Switching Spells when switching an animate to another animate 
(guinea pigs to guinea hens, was it?).

GulPlum wrote:

<< Fleur could also come back from Beauxbatons as the team 
cheerleader and raise a few more eyebrows. ;-) >>

Three of the four Champions are known to have played Seeker on their 
Quidditch teams: Harry, Cedric, and Viktor. I would be only slightly 
surprised if Fleur also played Seeker on her Quidditch team -- the 
Goblet has already shown a preference for Seekers.

Elisabeth, a rude mechanical, wrote:

<< (By the way, is Bill the eldest Weasley??) >>

Yes. I think the only evidence of this is that Ron lists Bill first 
when listing his brothers, but that's enough for my timeline to have 
Bill born in 1966-7 and Charlie in 1967-8. I like the idea that Bill 
was born in September 1967 and Charlie in August 1968, so that they 
would be in the same year at Hogwarts despite not being twins. I know 
several families with 11 months between the first and second child, 
so it is possible.

GulPlum wrote:

<< I consider use of "The Marauders" in this context to betray a 
sloppy command of grammar 
and a sloppy appreciation of the nuances of the name,  >>

No, what *my* use of this term "The Marauders" betrays is a tragic 
lack of concern for your feelings.

I know that the Map is called "Marauder's" singular. I know that that 
is pretty fair proof that that little gang didn't actually call itself 
Marauders. I believe they only used the "Messrs MWPP Purveyors of Aids 
to Magical Mischief Makers" (which caused one early fanfic writer to 
have them name their gang The Magical Mischief Makers) to sign the 
artifacts they created, and they had some other name for their gang. 
Whatever the other name was, it was the kind of Tough Violent name 
that people choose for gangs and sports teams, the Red Devils or 
Hell's Angels or Vikings or Pirates or Raiders or Buccaneers or 
Reavers -- thus I feel that "Marauders" is as good as any.





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