TBAY: Harry's Failures/Hermione's failures

finwitch finwitch at yahoo.com
Fri Mar 14 15:14:07 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 53763

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Badger" <realbadger at e...> 
wrote:
> << Message 53679
> "Cindy C." <cindysphynx at c...> 
> 
> << We know that Hermione seems to do rather poorly in DADA....
> She doesn't know how to conjure a Patronus. >>

realbadger responded:

> Possibly this is because a Patronus is *very* **advanced** magick 
> (and was taught to him "off the record," so to speak, by Lupin).  
The 
> fact that Harry can do it at all at his age astounds and amazes the 
> book's adult wizards.  Even Hermione exclaims how advanced it is.

Still- why is Patronus advanced and difficult magic? Because you must 
find hope and happiness when exposed to extreme distress, even 
depression(which is what Dementors do to you) - in order to cast it. 
Also that you must believe you can do it, when everyone tells you how 
very difficult it is... Time-turner realisation was a short-cut for 
Harry, but he still had the first "impossibility" done.

But another Harmione's failure: She was only Gryffindor in her 3rd 
year NOT defeating a boggart - while Snape considers that to be 
*first* year's stuff (Maybe it is, seeing Quirrellmort and Lockhart 
being such incapable ones to teach them much anything). Find a way to 
laugh at your fear. That's what Hermione could not do... as ironical 
as it is, she failed because she's *afraid* to fail.
The Troll: well-- why didn't *she* use the levitation spell to knock 
the troll over the head??
The basilisk: What convinced her to be safe looking the basilisk via 
mirror? Didn't all those petrified people *warn* her?

Divination is yet another failure of hers... and how she takes that? 
When Ron and Harry try to tell her of a *real* prediction, she just 
won't hear it! Much like with House-elves, she's made up her mind and 
anything else is "wrong" - if house-elves, it's brainwash; if 
wizards, it's bigotry.

Yet, she obviously does have a photographic memory, ability to use 
anything she read in a book, but...

*You can't apparate into or from Hogwarts grounds* - Harry/Ron still 
consider some sort of "apparition" possible. The boys give in to 
Hermione, but there's nothing against apparating within Hogwarts 
grounds (apparate to the edge, walk a few steps and disapparate to 
where-ever you want, big deal that there's that anti-apparition-wall 
Hermione keeps reminding them of...).

Has Harry failed? At least- with Accio in class (as well as Neville), 
earning extra home-work. Does this bother him? No. Does it bother him 
that he fell from his broomstick, lost the game/snitch AND his 
broomstick? No. His disability to find one to suit him? No - even 
when Hermione took the firebolt away to be checked! His first 
failings with the Patronus? No - though Harry was disappointed not to 
succeed, he kept on and overcame his failures in skill... Doesn't 
seem like Harry minds about how successful he himself is, he's not 
measuring himself with it...
 
IMO, it's Hermione with trouble of failure/being wrong, never Harry - 
and Hermione's failure-trouble is clearly shown as her boggart...

-- Finwitch






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