Can the Marauder's Map be deceived? (and more questions)

[Susan Atherton]

No: HPFGUIDX 54329

I'm not keeping up with the main list like I used to, but occasionally I check in and curse as I see something I wish I'd read from the start :) Like this, for example!

Annemehr said:
So you see that TT!HH took a *different route* across the grounds than 
HRH did, *and* that they arrived under the eaves of the forest and 
then had time to  move through the trees to a spot where Hagrid's door 
was visible *before* HRH knocked on it.  So if Lupin was watching HRH 
intently, he would not notice TT!HH moving off to the side, and then 
they were in the forest.

My little addition:
Something I was thinking about the other day: how do we know Lupin did or did not see them? We only know he didn't mention having seen them. McGonagall "had to write all sorts of letters to the Ministry of Magic to make sure [Hermione] could have [a Time Turner]". Doesn't it make sense that since she was using it "only for [her] studies" that all the teachers would be aware of it?

I know it's tempting to think only McGonagall, Dumbledore, and Hermione know about the TT. But what if Flitwick makes some offhand comment in the staff room about Hermione Granger performed a perfect, oh, I don't know, Wingardium Leviosa ;). Snape frowns and says "But Miss Granger was busy being a know-it-all in my classroom at the time." Cue confusion, questions, and awkward answers for McGonagall. (I can't imagine Dumbledore ever feeling awkward, so no awkwardness for him :) )

I think all the teachers who taught her - so that's Vector, Sinistra, McGonagall, Snape, Flitwick, Lupin, Sprout, and whoever teaches Muggle Studies, plus anyone else I've forgotten - knew about her TT. My mental jury is still out on Hagrid - he's not a real professor, and he's got a habit of getting drunk and letting things slip a la Fluffy, but technically he should know since he teaches Hermione. In the same fashion, I don't think Hooch or Pomfrey would know - Pomfrey doesn't seem to in the hospital. Any ideas on Hagrid, anyone?

So when Lupin saw:
    
running----->        ____________
HG HP RW-----> | Hagrid      |
                            |           PP  | HG2 HP2

...he might not have quite understand WHY H&H were time-turning, but he would have understood that they WERE time-turning and therefore he probably shouldn't mention it until he knows why - he might inadvertently screw up history in all sorts of ways, because they wouldn't BOTH be there unless it was for a good reason (Hermione has obviously told Harry, why would she if it wasn't an emergency? Wondering about what this emergency was could also have been part of the distraction making him forget about his Wolfsbane Potion). 

However, I do really quite like the theory that the map was charmed with things they themselves could access, and they only had the Animagus/Cloak/Polyjuice enabling spells, rather than a TT. I also like the idea that you can only see who is on the plane of time you yourself are on - HH2 could see themselves and HH1, wheras Lupin could only see HH1 because to him, HH2 didn't exist yet.

Will we ever get a definitive answer? Probably not. But isn't it fun to debate in the meantime!

Susan
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