Fawkes

finwitch finwitch at yahoo.com
Wed Mar 26 08:44:51 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 54342

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Fred Waldrop" 
> 
> Fred:
> 
> Ok, on the one hand, Fawkes is not that old, but could still live a 
> very long age. He was nameed after Guy Fawkes who died in 1606, and 
> could not be Godric Griffindor in animagus form.   
> On the other hand, Fawkes is very old, named after an older version 
> of "Fawkes", ie, "The name Fawkes is a lot older than Guy Fawkes 
and 
> has it origins in "the name Faux (also: Fox, Foxx, Foxe, Faix, 
Fauks, 
> Fawks, Fawkes, Fowkes, Fochs, Focks, Foks, Foux, Fowks)", and could 
> possibly be Godric Griffindor in animagus form.
> 
> Now this is how I see it, The Pheniox we all love, is named after 
Guy 
> Fawkes, but was named "Fawkes" a long time before Guy Fawkes was 
> born. After all, we do not know if Godric Griffindor could see into 
> the future, but seeing as how he was well before his own time in 
> allowing "muggle born" W&W into school, he must have been able to 
see 
> something from the future.
> So, if Griffindor could see the future, he must have seen someone 
> that had a holiday named for himself, Guy Fawkes. Hence, he named 
his 
> Pheniox "Fawkes" after Guy Fawkes from the future. Or, he named 
> himself, in animagus form "Fawkes" the same way.

Now, for a one thing, just because JKR named a phoenix Fawkes after 
Guy Fawkes because of a regular fire-festival connected to that name, 
does not mean that Godric Gryffindor, Albus Dumbledore or any wizard 
In The Book's World even knew that there was/would be a Guy Fawkes. 
Instead, well maybe the wizard just liked the name.

Also, I'm with the theory of a phoenix choosing it's master. He knows 
that Dumbledore is dying, so he's making connection to Harry.

1) Fawkes' feather in Harry's wand. (earlier incarnation in 
Dumbledore's?)
2) Harry's true loyalty to Dumbledore
3) Rebirth with Harry watching
4) Singing when two wands with Fawkes' feather meet; Harry won.

Well, I think that a dialogue between Dumbledore & Harry like...

"... and I'd like you to take care of Fawkes, Harry"
"But sir, I know nothing about phoenixes" 
"Sit down Harry, and I'll tell you everything".

... could well take place.

-- Finwitch






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