[HPforGrownups] Re: SHIP: Re: Who is the boy?

[Patricia Bullington-McGuire]

No: HPFGUIDX 54380

On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 Meliss9900 at aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 3/26/2003 2:56:56 PM Central Standard Time, 
> patricia at obscure.org writes:
> 
> > I have an alternate view of why Hermione talked to Krum at length about 
> > Harry but apparently not about Ron.
> > 
> > I have always had a large number of male friends, and when I was much
> > younger I once found myself in a situation where I was dating one boy but
> > had strong romantic feelings for another, one of my friends.  I found that
> > while I could talk to my boyfriend about most of my male friends, I
> > avoided discussing the one I had feelings for at all costs because I
> > didn't want the depth of my attraction to him to become apparent.
> > Hermione is generally a considerate and sensitive person, ***so I think she
> > would take care not to gush on about someone else she was attracted to to
> > the boy who clearly has a huge crush on her.***  If I'm right, that would
> > tend to lean against her being interested in Harry, since she did 
> > apparently talk about him a good bit.  
> > 
> 
> Color me confoozed ;-). . .Ron is the one who has a clear crush on her at the 
> moment . .not Harry. So talking to him about Ron would be safe. OTOH if she 
> had a crush on Harry she wouldn't discuss it with Ron because he's crushing 
> on her so speaking with Krum about Harry would be a natural outlet.  

Sorry.  I should have been more clear.  I was referring to Hermione
talking to Krum.  I think it's pretty clear that Krum is seriously sweet
on Hermione.  He told her he had been hanging out in the library for
months trying to get up the nerve to talk to her.  That's a pretty clear
indication of a crush, I think. ;)

My point was that since Krum is clearly crushing on Hermione, she wouldn't
gush to him about a different boy she likes.  People have been arguing
that she talks to Krum so much about Harry because she has romantic
feelings for Harry, but it seems to me that if she did have those feelings
she would talk about Harry less, not more, when she and Krum are together.

> If you're talking about Krum crushing on her then its possible she that the 
> thought hasn't even crossed her mind. He's 17/18, he's a world famous seeker, 
> she might very well presume that he's over that stage, Or she might have 
> needed an outlet badly enough that she took it, after all Krum was only there 
> temporarily, she didn't seem to see him all that often (for what its worth I 
> can't see her gossiping with Parvati/Lavender about Ron either. . far to much 
> of a chance it would get back to him ironically I can see her talking to 
> Harry about Ron . .he wouldn't tell).

I think it's pretty clear that Krum has a crush on Hermione, and since she
is generally pretty observant of people I think Hermione would have
noticed it too.  I don't think Hermione would callously use Krum as an
outlet at the expense of his feelings just because he's not going to be
around long.  It's just not her style.  But I agree that I can't see her 
gossiping with Lavender or Parvati.  As far as I can tell, she doesn't 
seem to feel she has a thing is common with those two.


> > Also, there are good reasons why Krum would be more threatened by Harry
> > than Ron, even if Hermione had been talking about both boys equally.  For
> > starters, the major newspapers were reporting that Harry and Hermione were
> > a couple.  That right there is enough to make Krum jealous, no matter what
> > Hermione talks about.  Also, Harry is a celebrity, and a bigger celebrity
> > than Krum.  Krum may be a bit under the spell of the Boy-Who-Lived image
> > himself (almost every other wizard is, so why not him?), and even if he
> > isn't he knows from personal experience that girls seem to be inordinately
> > attracted to famous people.  Think about it: if the girl you were wild
> > about spent most of her day hanging out with a major superstar and the
> > papers were alleging they were a couple, wouldn't you be a bit concerned?  
> > Would you be more concerned about the superstar or the ordinary joe who
> > dresses badly that they also hang out with?  >>
> 
> 
> Krum, as you say, is also a celebrity not to the same extent perhaps but he's 
> probably had enough personal experience with the Bulgarian version of Witch 
> Weekly and Rita Skeeter to know how they work. 

Which is probably why he doesn't immediately give up hope of having a
relationship with Hermione, but checks out the information with Harry
instead.  He probably know by now that what appears in the papers isn't
always true, but he also knows it's not always a lie, either.


----
Patricia Bullington-McGuire	<patricia at obscure.org>

The brilliant Cerebron, attacking the problem analytically, discovered
three distinct kinds of dragon: the mythical, the chimerical, and the
purely hypothetical.  They were all, one might say, nonexistent, but each
nonexisted in an entirely different way ... 
                -- Stanislaw Lem, "Cyberiad"