SHIP Why I Hate H/G
Lilac
lilac_bearry at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 27 03:14:24 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 54404
The brilliant Pippin said:
>Harry
> and Ginny, on the other hand, do have something sitting in front
> of them--they both know what it's like to be haunted by
> Voldemort, and unless things change drastically in the
> remaining books, that's something Hermione will never know.
>
Erica countered:
<<<What haunted? When in PoA or GoF do we get the impression that Ginny
is 'haunted' by Voldemort. If that event is going to bring them
together - why the two years plus wait after the fact?>>>
Me:
POA 86 The Dementor (US version, hardcover):
"Ginny, who was huddled in her corner **looking nearly as bad as Harry felt**, gave a small sob; Hermione went over and put a comforting arm around her.
"But didn't any of you -- fall off your seats?" said Harry awkwardly.
"No," said Ron, looking anxiously at Harry again. "**Ginny was shaking like mad, though....**" " (my emphasis)
What is Ginny's worst memory that would have her reacting "nearly as badly" as Harry's reaction to the Dementors? We know that Harry's worst memory is a direct result of Voldemort. I would assume that Ginny's worst memories have to do with Voldemort/Riddle as well (COS).
Even Neville didn't react as strongly as Ginny did (he was "pale" and remarks "It was horrible,"...in a higher voice than usual..."Did you feel how cold it got when it came in?" pg 85, POA US hardcover) and some speculate that Neville witnessed his parents' Cruciatus torture as a toddler and was memory-charmed later. Was Voldemort directly involved in Neville's worst memory? No, he was already Vapormort by then. I know I'm not the first to propose that those who have encountered Voldemort directly would have the "worst" worse memories, and therefore stronger reactions to the Dementors. In other words, just Harry and Ginny (is there anyone else out there that survived when Voldemort tried to kill him/her?).
Plus, this is the school year directly after COS for Ginny. Do you really think that she isn't haunted by the memory of what happened to her just a few months ago? Even if she doesn't remember anything about the time she was under Voldemort/Riddle's control, her subconscious remembers. And even if her subconscious doesn't remember, she probably thinks about what she did (under Voldemort's control) to the people at school. I know that would haunt me. All because of one person...Voldemort.
I just think that it's very interesting that JKR made sure to mention Ginny's reaction during that scene. It's obviously foreshadowing, but the question is...for what? (I hope it's IsStrongerFromTheExperienceAndChoosesToFightBack!Ginny)
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Keith said:
<<<So far Harry does not return Ginny's feelings either - and with Ginny,
I get the distinct impression that he would not rather eat live
scorpions than have anything to do with Ginny. He's suspicious of her
feelings towards him (let's be honest, he hates being a celebrity and is
suspicious of people wanting to go out with him, only because he is a
celebrity) knowing fully well that she's likes "The Boy Who Lived" not smart,
funny, knobbly-kneed, Quidditch player extraordinaire, Harry Potter!>>>
That's very interesting, because I don't get that impression at all from Harry. My impression is that he politely endures her blushing and fumbling. He doesn't love it, but he doesn't hate it worse than "eating live scorpions" like you suggest...just politely indifferent. Could someone please help me to understand this impression, backed up by canon?
~Lilac~
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