[HPforGrownups] Re: OK... theory I read while I was gone
Troels Forchhammer
t.forch at mail.dk
Mon May 5 08:00:23 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 57002
At 07:06 05-05-03 +0000, valkyrievixen wrote:
Lupin is James theory from the 'Ultimate Unofficial Guide to the
Mysteries of Harry Potter'
>BUT, and this is a big BUTT. LOL. The thing that comes to mind, to
>shoo this interesting theory altogether, is;
>During the Priori spell from Voldemort's wand, it is the spirit of
>Harry's Father, James, that emerges, and not Lupin or Sirius. Perhaps
>we are
>hoping for too much in our desire to see Harry reunited with one of
>his parents.
I don't have any problem with the events in GoF as they were
originally. It is not the spirit of the deceased as much as it
is an echo of the spell that emerges, and it would only be
natural if it retained the appearance of the body that was
killed. Dumbledore describes it as "An echo which retained
Cedric's appearance and character."
I do have a problem with the corrected sequence where Lily
emerges first telling Harry that "your father's coming" -
it would seem to me inconcievable that James would swap
bodies with Lupin without telling Lily (both assessing his
character as it has been described and speaking as a
married man).
I also find it difficult to reconcile this theory with
Rowling's words about Harry's parents when discussing
death:
Lydon: Peter, what is your guess about Lily - the real story
about Harry's mother?
Peter: Er - I don't really know, but I'm guessing that maybe she
is going to come back to life, maybe in the seventh book or
something like that ...
JKR: Well, it would be nice, but - I'll tell you something - you
- you've raised a really interesting point there, Peter,
because when I started writing the books, the first thing I
had to decide was not what magic /can/ do, but what it
/can't/ do.
I had to set limits on it - immediately, and decide what the
parameters are ... and one of the most important things I -
I decided was that _magic__cannot__bring__dead__people__back
to life; that' - that's one of the most profound things, the
- the natural law of - of - of death applies to wizards as
it applies to Muggles and there is no returning once you're
properly dead, you know, they might be able to save very
close-to-death people better than we can, by magic - that
they - that they have certain knowledge we don't, but once
you're dead, you're dead.
So - erm - yeah, I'm afraid there will be no coming back
fro- for Harry's parents
<http://www.hogwarts-library.net/reference/interviews/19991012_TheConnection.html#question40>
This does not leave any doubt in my mind that both of Harry's
parents are 'properly dead' - again; listen to the show as
well as reading the transcript. The transcript contains links
to each part in mp3 format - this part is only a couple of
minutes.
(And time for a little promoting: we also provide a text
version of the transcript. Also see our Harry Potter Meta-FAQ
where we try to organise as many questions as possible
http://www.hogwarts-library.net/reference/meta_faq.html)
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