Slytherin's behavior at the GoF final feast (was Re: Dumbledore's awarding of points PS/SS)

[darrin_burnett]

No: HPFGUIDX 57089

Heidi wrote: 

> I beg to differ. 
> 
> Draco's actions at the World Cup, when he told the Trio to get out 
of the way of the marauding death eaters and even gave some direction 
on how to do it was not a bad act (although his language wasn't 
perfectly nice) and could, in fact, be deemed "decent". 
> 
> And the act of the students who stood to toast Harry was clearly at 
least arguably decent. 

He taunted the Trio. I got the impression he didn't give one damn 
whether Hermione really got out of the way or not. 

And like I continually say, I have a hard time believing he was going 
to try to protect Hermione when later on, he's bragging about how 
Mudbloods and Muggle-lovers would be killed first, no wait, second, 
since Diggory, who he stood to honor BEFORE finding out Voldemort was 
involved.

Now, I will concede that there is an opening. Draco was alone in the 
World Cup forest and was with his boys at the ending train scene. You 
could argue the later time was an act, although why he'd worry about 
impressing Crabbe and Goyle is beyond me. Surely, THEY wouldn't 
suggest going to taunt the Trio in the train car and Draco had to go 
along?

I don't believe that, but I do concede it is an opening, should JKR 
wish to try to squeeze Draco through it.


> 
> Also, Darren keeps accusing the Slytherins of cheating in 
Quidditch. 
> 
> I have to say, I have no idea what he's going on about. 
> 
> There are hundreds of ways to foul in Quidditch, but - perhaps 
someone more familiar with basketball or soccer can explain - if you 
foul someone, is that a cheat? Or does it - presuming fair refs - 
just lead to the other side getting a penalty shot?
> 
 I reread the G vs S match in CoS right now, and I don't see one act 
that could be deemed a "cheat" by the Slytherin team. I guess that 
draco, crabbe, Goyle and Marcus's actions in PoA with the dementor 
garb could be deemed a cheat, but they weren't playing, only 2 of the 
people involved were on the team, and none of their other housemates 
or even teammates were involved. 

Let's not take my word for it, hmmm? Let's listen to the Quidditch 
teacher and referee, Madame Hooch, in PoA, page 228

"Penalty! Penalty to Gryffindor! I've never seen such tactics," 
Madame Hooch SCREECHED. (emphasis mine)

There are incidental fouls and deliberate fouls. The Slyths entire 
tactics are based on beating people up. 

And if you don't consider trying to sabotage Harry to the point where 
it's life-threatening - a reasonable interpretation of dressing up 
like a Dementor - to be cheating, then I'm sorry. People get all 
worked up about Sirius' prank on Snape, well, that little Dementor 
stunt could have seriously injured Harry, had he hit the ground.

But not our ickle Drackykins! No, he can't have done that!

By the way, Crabbe and Goyle were there too, so we have four Slyths, 
including the team captain, who carries a LOT of weight in a house. 
If you can't trust a seventh-year Quidditch captain to know better, 
who can you trust?

And before you compare him to Oliver, remember that Oliver told 
Cedric "no, it was fair and square" even though it wasn't, after the 
Gryff-Hufflepuff match.

Darrin
-- Ickle Drackykins. I'm copyrighting that as a band name.