[HPforGrownups] Slytherin's behavior at the GoF final feast (was Re: Dumbledore's awarding of points PS/SS)
Taryn Kimel
amani at charter.net
Tue May 6 02:37:44 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 57097
--- Heidi wrote:
> Also, Darren keeps accusing the Slytherins of
> cheating in Quidditch.
>
> There are hundreds of ways to foul in
> Quidditch, but - perhaps someone more familiar
> with basketball or soccer can explain - if you
> foul someone, is that a cheat? Or does it -
> presuming fair refs - just lead to the other
> side getting a penalty shot?
Lynn:
That depends on how you look at the foul. To me,
if you're just trying to stop someone from
scoring, that's a foul. When you try to stop
them from scoring by deliberately injuring them
to take them out of the game, that's cheating.
Also, if you deliberately try to injure someone
who isn't in a scoring position, that's cheating.
<snip>
Penalty shots don't matter if the other team
purposely injures a key player, and in Quidditch
they are all key. They then have an unfair
advantage in the game that penalty shots will
never make up. In basketball and soccer when a
player deliberatly fouls someone with intent to
injure, they are thrown out of the game. In ice
hockey, their team is penalized by that player
having to sit out a specified period of time and
the injured team gets a definite advantage. In
addition, many times the league will penalize the
player and/or the team by fines or making the
offending player sit out a specified period of
games. Of course, in my opinion, it should be
even harsher. If someone on a team deliberately
fouls with intent to injure and does injure, the
team of the offender should lose a player of
equal importance to the team for the amount of
time the injured player is lost to their team.
In this game, if players could be sent off as
they are in basketball or soccer when they foul
with the intent to injure, Slytherin would have
been left with the Keeper, one Chaser and their
Seeker. In my opinion, based on this game,
Slytherin cheats.
Me:
Okay, I'm going to take back a little of what I said in my last post about fouling, in which I said fouling is sometimes necessary. Yup, it is, and sometimes people get hurt, but I'm pretty tired and not remembering Slytherin tactics all that well. They're just downright dirty.
However, against Heidi's definition, couldn't the Slytherin crew coming out as the Dementors be considered cheating? They're not even in the game and they were purposely trying to interfere in a way they knew would harm the Seeker.
--Taryn
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