Slytherin Stereotypes WAS Re: [HPforGrownups] Re: Dumbledore's awarding ...

[darrin_burnett]

No: HPFGUIDX 57187

I (Darrin) wrote: 

> > Show me a case where a Slyth has done something decent and I 
don't 
> > count standing for Cedric.
> > 
> > The entire school stood up, almost reflexively, BEFORE they found 
out 
> > Voldemort was behind it, at which point Draco and many others 
started 
> > showing their true colors. 
> > 
> > I wonder how many would have stood had Dumbledore started 
> > with "Voldemort is back and he killed Cedric Diggory."?
> > 
> > Besides, as I say in another post, so long as the Slyths follow 
> > Draco, and fail to rein him in, they ARE tainted in some ways. 
> > 
> > So far, Snape is the exception and Draco is the rule. When that 
is 
> > overturned by future canon, I'll reconsider.
> > 
> > Darrin
> > -- Rather invite a werewolf to dinner than a Slytherin 
> 


Oryomai wrote" 

> I hate to bring up this argument again, but seeing as how we played 
the 
> "Attack Snape" game, I will.  If you were a Slytherin and you saw 
the 
> Headmaster openly supporting Gryffindor over you, what would you 
do?  I might 
> just be a bad person, but I would say "Screw it.  I'm gonna do 
exactly what 
> they think I will.  There's no way to change their point of view."  
HRH 
> *always* assume it's a Slytherin.  Slytherin is kinda the Red 
Herring (Scooby 
> Doo anyone? :)  )  And all of you listies who clearly say there are 
no good 
> Slytherins show that that stereotype exists.  How can they show 
themselves if 
> you won't give them a chance?  And there I go talking about HP like 
it's 
> really real again....
> 


Now me:

Funny, I didn't see an example of a good Slytherin deed in that. 

Just a justification that because the Headmaster actually decided 
that bravery, honor, intelligence and self-sacrifice (Please, tell me 
that Draco would have sacrificed himself on the chess board for 
anyone -- I had a tooth pulled today and I need a laugh) was worth 
something more than skulking about, using trickery to cost another 
house points, it's OK to be nasty.

And when have I ever said I won't give Slytherin a chance? I have 
repeatedly said that canon SO FAR has not given us a decent 
Slytherin. I refuse to call them something other than nasty little 
brats, based on the facts so far.

We might very well get that decent Slyth, or even more than one, in 
the next three books. If so, I'll change my tune. But not until then.

The closest we've come is Snape, who has apparently committed to the 
side of the angels and he also apparently believes that justifies him 
making life miserable for HRH.

As an aside, am I the only one who still thinks it's possible he 
could double-cross D-Dore and go to V-Mort? Someone that will turn 
for you will turn against you, you know.

Tom wrote about the difference between Pansy "simpering" and the Trio 
visiting each other. 

I looked up the word "simper" and the AOL dictionary has it as "to 
smile in a silly manner." That is just a weird word choice there. I'm 
not sure why you would smile in a silly manner when you're trying to 
show concern over an "injury."

Anyway, that is an odd way to put it. 

As for the Ron as Keeper concerns:

My guess is that, at least for the first game, Ron is going to really 
suck as a Keeper, maybe even costing them the game. If Harry is 
captain, he'll be under pressure to replace Ron. 

Darrin
-- Anxiously waiting the decent Slytherin, but my empty tooth socket 
hurts and I'm going to bed.