Slytherin Stereotypes WAS Re: [HPforGrownups] Re: Dumbledore's awarding ...

[Ladi lyndi]

No: HPFGUIDX 57432


--- Kelly wrote:

> > Darrin wrote:

> > But again, I do think there is a difference
> between suggesting to
> > someone a way they can fall into a trap and
> dressing up as a dementor
> > to try and make someone fall off a broom.
> >
  Kelly replied:

> Only a little bit of difference. 

Lynn:

I respectfully disagree that there is only a
little bit of difference between the two
incidents.  To me, there is a huge difference. 
In the first instance, Snape was able to make a
choice for himself, does he follow Lupin or
doesn't he.  If Snape sees Lupin go to the
Whomping Willow, he obviously sees that Lupin is
accompanied by Madam Pomfrey so he has to know
that whatever is happening is sanctioned by the
administration and Lupin isn't doing anything
wrong.  Snape makes the decision to put himself
in what turns out to be a potentially dangerous
position.  

Besides, I totally agree with how stupid could
Snape be to listen to Sirius?  If someone with
whom I had a mutual hatred society suddenly
becomes helpful, I'd sure smell a trap.  You'd
think someone as suspicious as Snape would have
but it was his curiosity and his desire to hurt
other people (find out something bad about Lupin,
hoping to find something that could get people
expelled) that got him caught in this trap. 
Snape willing walked into the trap.

I also get the impression that Sirius just didn't
think things through.  If he really wanted
something bad to happen to Snape, he would never
have told anyone what he did.  Rather, it seems
he thought of it more as a joke he was playing on
someone and shared that joke with people.  Not
that I think it excuses him in the least, it was
a potentially deadly joke, but I get the
impression it wasn't as much to harm Snape as it
was to get back at Snape for all that skulking
around trying to get them expelled.

On the other hand, Harry is having a potentially
dangerous situation thrust upon him with no
warning.  Harry isn't given a choice whether or
not to put himself into this position.  Draco &
Co. believed, based on what they knew of the last
Quidditch game, that what they were doing would
definitely cause physical harm to Harry and did
it purposely to cause that harm.

Yep, to me there is a huge difference in the two
pranks.

Kelly wrote:

> Poor Cedric took so much crap from
> the Gryffindors that
> > entire year because the Hufflepuffs beat them
> at Quidditch the
> > previous year.
> >
> > The spiteful side of me hopes that those
> people who gave him crap
> > that year feel really bad now.

Lynn:

Umm, I'm with Darrin, what crap did poor Cedric
take from the Gryffindors?  Where do we learn
that poor Cedric was constantly tormented by the
Gryffindors for something he had no control over?
 Where are all the Support Harry Potter, Diggory
Sucks buttons?

The spiteful side of me hopes that all those who
gave Harry so much crap are feeling really bad
when they realize that Harry helped Cedric in the
maze twice even though not helping him would have
meant Harry would be champion, that Harry could
have taken the cup all by himself but instead was
willing to make it a combined Hogwarts victory,
that Harry risked his own life to return Cedric
to Hogwarts, that they allowed themselves to
either be led or encouraged by a group of people
(Draco & Co.) who seem cavalier about Cedric's
death and are looking forward to their own deaths
for either being Muggle-born or Muggle-lovers.

Lynn

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