[HPforGrownups] Dumbledore, Snape and Harry with a side of MD (WAS:The Dueling Club - an interpr

[Becky Walkden]

No: HPFGUIDX 57878



Grey Wolf <greywolf1 at jazzfree.com> wrote:
darrin burnett wrote:
> I really hate All-Knowing Snape and Omniscient
> Dumbledore. Mainly, I hate omniscient anyone because the more 
> Dumbledore, Snape, whoever, is omnisicent, the more it becomes their 
> story and less Harry's story.

I want to point out, first of all, that your objections are only in the 
nature of disliking the theory; just because you dislike 
Omniscient!Dumbledore, it doesn't follow that he isn't. I don't like 
Evil!Lupin, but it has a strong case, and it is altogether possible 
that that's what JKR has planned.

Besides, I fail to see the correlation between Omniscient!Dumbledore 
and Dumbledore's!Story. Take, for example, Lord of The Rings. (Almost) 
inarguably Frodo is the main character, just like Harry is. And Gandalf 
(particularly Gandalf the White) is all-knowing. And yet it is still 
Frodo's story. 

Me:  Let me point out too that even Gandalf in Lord of the Rings, who by the way wasn't even human.  He was Orin, one of the (seven or so?) servants (I forget what they were called-I would have to look it up) of the Gods who created middle-earth.  But even HE didn't know what the result of his efforts were going to be.  He could only do his best and hope Frodo delivers the goods.

In our story here, Dumbledore has his finger on far more then he let's on here and is pretty darned close to Omnicisent at times I think but I cannot believe that he is in control of everything that is happening.  Heck, even in the first book, when he got to Harry he was afraid he was too late to save his life!  Assuming that his assurances that he won't lie to Harry is true, that's what he told him in the hospital.  He can help Harry reach what Dumbledore believes is his destiny, and that will be to finally destroy Voldemort but when it comes down to it, it is going to be up to Harry to succeed or fail and there is nothing Dumbledore can do about that.  Also Dumbledore obviously does not have the capacity to confront and destroy Voldemort or he would undoubedly do so himself.  Another example is not only did Dumbledore not know about the three animagous in PoA until Sirius told him and was more surprised that he DIDN'T know then that they did it), but I've found NOTHING to indicate that he didn't believe as much as anybody else that Sirius Black was the betrayer of the Potters and was in the vacinity in order to kill Harry.  More examples-he didn't expect the the trophy in GoF to be a trap and he absolutely didn't know that Mad Eye Moody wasn't who he was supposed to be.  He said so himself (again I assume Dumbeldore won't lie to Harry).  He realized his mistake when "Moody" carried Harry away.  Dumbledore knows an awful lot and is controlling an awful lot behind the scenes I have no doubt.  But he doesn't know everything. 

Now SNAP being Omniscient is a joke!  That behavior of his in PoA was NOT an act!

And Lumpin being evil is definately not even possible.  He is a member of the Order of the Phoenix I bet and is very well trusted by (Omniscient) Dumbledore.  Huggs the REALLY Omniscient Becky



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