[HPforGrownups] Re: Fawkes = Traitor?

Becky Walkden runningbecky2002 at yahoo.com
Mon May 19 15:33:01 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 58213


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Valky:

Not really sure about what Fawkes leaning is in good or evil.
I do have an observation to offer though that some might find 
interesting in this topic.

Why is Fawkes at Hogwarts?

We are assuming that he is Dumbledores pet, as Harry has. Yet I don't 
recall Dumbledore saying "Fawkes is mine.". 

Does Fawkes belong to Harry? 

Lets consider some things that may support this theory. 

1 Fawkes heals Harry which could be a display of Loyalty to Harry.

2 Dumbledore has on other occassions had *Treasure* belonging to 
other Wizards left in his keeping, including Harry's cloak. Could 
Fawkes be a Potter Treasure.

As I write I am thinking of a dozen arguments against the theory so I 
will leave it at that and ask. What do you think?

Valky


ME:  Yea one argument against that theory which I'm sure you've thought out is Dumbledore's comment in CoS that "You must have shown a lot of loyalty to me, Harry.  Only that could have brought Fawkes."  I put that in quotation marks but I'm reciting it from memory so it might be slightly off.  But assuming as we must, that Dumbledore doesn't lie, that means Fawke's loyalty is to Dumbledore, not Harry.  When they arrived back, the first place Fawkes flew to was to Dumbledore.  He's obviously there for Harry when/if he needs him but it looks like Fawke's loyalty for Harry is actually a reflection of 1.  Harry's loyalty to Dumbledore and 2. Dumbledore's loyalty to Harry.  

One other thing, I have a sneaky suspicion that cannot be confirmed that Phoenix's are noble good creatures so I bet he is indeed oriented on a good/evil basis.  In other words the great loyalty that Phoenix's display I think would only be given to those who are worthy of that loyalty.  There is no cannon on this of course.

Huggs Becky



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