Hermione and her time -turner and a Snape theory

[innermurk]

No: HPFGUIDX 58402

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <KIDATHEART_ at C...> 
wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Kelly Grosskreutz" 
> <ivanova at i...> wrote:
> >Linda:
> > >
> > >       1. Snape knew about the time turner and when Dumbledore
> > > brought up being in two places at once, he realized that HH had 
> used
> > > it to save Buckbeak and Sirius. Additionally, he caught the
> > > *twinkle* in Dumbledore's eyes and also realized that their 
> actions
> > > had been sanctioned and maybe even suggested by the headmaster. 
> His
> > > loyalty to Dumbledore took over and the result was for him to 
> clam
> > > up and leave the room before his anger made him compromise
> > > Dumbledore in front of Fudge.
> > >       2. Snape had no idea that Hermione had been using a time
> > > turner all year as his class was not one of the classes that
> > > Hermione had concurrantly. ( As a core class, schedueling wise 
it
> > > could not conflict with any of the elective classes.) And his
> > > reaction was one of pure frustration.
> > >
>  Me again(Linda):
>    
>    I think that I might have not been very clear in my original 
> post. I never meant to imply that Snape knew about everything that 
> was going on that night. MD never even entered my mind. I was 
> actually crediting Snape's intelligence. Even if he had not been 
> told that Hermione was using a time turner to attend her classes, 
> I'm sure he would have figured it out. IMO he knew about how many 
> classes she was taking if only from hearing other students talking. 
> In addition, as an adult wizard, he would most probably know about 
> the existance of such a device. Based on the obstacle he put forth 
> to protect the SS/PS, he has a logical mind and the evidence was 
> plain to see for someone who had all the pieces. 
> 
>       I think that he didn't realize what was going on until the 
> tail end of the confrontation in the hospital wing at the end of 
PoA.
> In that instant of realization, he took a moment to gather his 
> bearings and left the room before his temper could override his 
> sense of loyalty and he said something that he would later regret.
> 


I innermurk have to disagree:

Snape was nothing if irrational that night. He was more than willing 
to turn over an innocent man to the Dementors. And he showed this 
more than once.
I don't think he knew about the TT for that reason, because even 
though he is loyal to DD, his irrational behavior that night would've 
spurred him to betray DD just to get Sirius.
I think he realized that DD knew *something* and he knew that Harry 
did *something* but I don't think he knew *what* (all his yelling and 
spluttering about Potter proves this) He tried to blame them and get 
the Minister of Magic to blame them as well, until DD stepped in.
When he realized DD was behind it, he left, albeit after a few 
minutes hesitation where he shot poisonous looks all around. 
(Probably to continue his fuming and ranting away from them all)

He left maybe out of his loyalty to DD, because he didn't want to 
expose that DD was behind it. BUT if he'd known *how* Harry and 
Hermione did what they did, I'm not so sure he would've kept his 
mouth shut about it. Two of his least favorite pupils, protecting one 
of his most hated rivals (Sirius) and a chance to get revenge and a 
medal (Order of Merlin) all at once? Too much.
When he knew DD did something, his loyalty carried him so far as to 
leave before he blurted it. But I don't believe his loyalty goes so 
far as to cover Harry or Sirius.

Innermurk