Hermione and her time -turner and a Snape theory

[Linda]

No: HPFGUIDX 58396

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Kelly Grosskreutz" 
<ivanova at i...> wrote:
>Linda:
> >
> >       1. Snape knew about the time turner and when Dumbledore
> > brought up being in two places at once, he realized that HH had 
used
> > it to save Buckbeak and Sirius. Additionally, he caught the
> > *twinkle* in Dumbledore's eyes and also realized that their 
actions
> > had been sanctioned and maybe even suggested by the headmaster. 
His
> > loyalty to Dumbledore took over and the result was for him to 
clam
> > up and leave the room before his anger made him compromise
> > Dumbledore in front of Fudge.
> >       2. Snape had no idea that Hermione had been using a time
> > turner all year as his class was not one of the classes that
> > Hermione had concurrantly. ( As a core class, schedueling wise it
> > could not conflict with any of the elective classes.) And his
> > reaction was one of pure frustration.
> >
> >      When I started out to write this post I was going to say 
that I
> > was of the opinion that choice two was the correct one. However, 
as
> > I put my thoughts into words, I have convinced myself that #1 is
> > most probably the case.  It makes the most sense. Dumbledore 
trusts
> > Snape. We have heard him say so several times in canon. 
Therefore,
> > Snape, especially since he is a former DE (with Dumbledore's full
> > knowlege of that fact), must have  an extrordinarily strong 
sense of
> > loyalty to both Dumbledore and the *light side*. If Snape's 
sense of
> > loyalty is as strong as I think it is, he would not have betrayed
> > Dumbledore's actions in front of Fudge, (but I'm sure they had 
quite
> > a conversation in Dumbledore's office after Fudge left).
> >

Kelly wrote:

> I agree with you that Dumbledore trusts Snape, and that Snape has 
a very
> strong affiliation to Dumbledore.  However, I do vote for #2.  I 
think Snape
> was truly furious with everything that was going on, and that he 
was not
> acting, although he is quite capable of acting.  We may not know 
everything
> that was going on with Snape and/or Dumbledore that night, but I 
don't
> ascribe to the MAGIC DISHWASHER theory where Snape was in the know 
for every
> last thing that was going on that night and was in control of 
everything
> except being knocked out by the students.  I do think Snape was 
clued in to
> a lot of things after the fact, though, once he had calmed down.

 Me again(Linda):
   
   I think that I might have not been very clear in my original 
post. I never meant to imply that Snape knew about everything that 
was going on that night. MD never even entered my mind. I was 
actually crediting Snape's intelligence. Even if he had not been 
told that Hermione was using a time turner to attend her classes, 
I'm sure he would have figured it out. IMO he knew about how many 
classes she was taking if only from hearing other students talking. 
In addition, as an adult wizard, he would most probably know about 
the existance of such a device. Based on the obstacle he put forth 
to protect the SS/PS, he has a logical mind and the evidence was 
plain to see for someone who had all the pieces. 

      I think that he didn't realize what was going on until the 
tail end of the confrontation in the hospital wing at the end of PoA.
In that instant of realization, he took a moment to gather his 
bearings and left the room before his temper could override his 
sense of loyalty and he said something that he would later regret.

- Linda