A Harry Failure
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maisaura2 at aol.com
Fri May 30 14:06:20 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 58949
DrMM wrote:
> While others may disagree, I've always thought that Harry tends to be
careless, reckless and just a touch arrogant.
>PS/SS: In the first book, Harry & Ron race into the bathroom to fight a
troll. They both could have run off to find a teacher and explain what they saw
but they rush in and fight it themselves.
and
> And the thing that has always annoyed me -- knowing the location of the
Chamber and after discovering what a completely incompetent person Lockheart was
(which he already suspected), he and Ron didn't go ask another teacher for
help.
DrMM goes on to list other similar examples from the other books, such as
Harry sneaking to Hogsmead when there is a killer after him, etc.
And Melody wrote:
>You mean he is being a pre-teenage boy? How novel. :) [A boy who is never]
fully punished for your careless actions and in fact be rewarded for your
"rash" behavior and chivalrous acts of insanity, and also have groupies. >>
Melody refutes points, point by point, then concludes:
<<I still am not sure Harry's failure will cause a death directly. It seems
so harsh and debilitating, but it would help him grow and focus more that is
for sure?if it does not kill his spirit.>>
Still a newbie, this is my second post only.
First, in response to Dr. MM's examples of Harry's impetuous, arrogant, and
reckless behavior, I mean no disrespect when I say that I think this is
precisely Snape's view of it. For those who are among the series' harshest critics,
the same charge is leveled-- Harry flagrantly disregards rules that are in
place for his safety and that of others. Not only does Harry get away with "it"
(whatever "it" may be), he is then rewarded and deemed heroic for his "bloody
cheek."
Melody took one approach to Harry's defense, and I'll offer another. The
first time I read SS/PS, one of my first reactions was similar to Dr. MM: "Why
don't they go to Dumbledore?" I had the same reaction with COS, "This is
silly! These children see they are in over their heads, why don't they go to
Dumbledore?"
That refrain stayed with me until my second or third re-read of those two
books. But, I think Melody hit on the response in observing, <<You mean he is
being a pre-teenage boy?>> Harry probably doesn't seek grown up intervention in
part because from his pre-Hogwarts experience, adults are disinterested at
best (school teachers, Mrs. Figg <eg>) or at worst, the enemy (Marge, Vernon and
Petunia). He's not a confiding sort. Ron and Hermione have had more
positive relationships with adults, one assumes, yet they join in Harry's secrecy as
well.
The conclusion I finally drew was that if **I** as an adult, were faced with
these kinds of challenges and problems, I would seek the advice and assistance
of others. But would I have done the same thing as a know it all, seen it
all, done it all pre-teen or teenager? Probably not. I think JKR is calling
upon the very well founded idea that children and teens will seek help amongst
themselves, rather than grown ups.
The reasons for this mistrust are due, in part, I think just to the secret
lives of children and the belief in their own invulnerability and righteousness.
I think the idea of children left to their own devices, running rampant and
doing all manner of insane things is well founded in literature -- begin with
Cat in the Hat, and go from there. Huck, Becky, and Tom's adventures don't
always end in a Lord of the Flies-esque kill the piggy sort of debacle, either.
Reasons to mistrust adults are also set out in the books. In SS/PS, when
things get really dicey, they do try to go Dumbledore. McGonagall rebuffs them,
dismisses their concerns, tells them, in essence, they are just being silly
children. Her reaction reaffirms their fears in not seeking assistance -- they
are belittled. In COS, Harry and Ron believe (it seems) that Dumbledore and
the other Professors do trust Lockhart -- Dumbledore did hire him, and don't
Harry and Ron see the teachers order Lockhart to the Chamber? From Harry and
Ron's point of view, the teachers are either (to paraphrase bluntly) dumb enough
to be deluded by Lockhart, or uncaring enough to see he's a fraud and yet send
him to rescue Ginny anyway. (There is also, as Melody pointed out, the
extreme urgency of the moment in the mind's of Ron and Harry).
Phew, one last point. I think that in POA and GoF we begin to see huge
developments in Harry's character because he begins to look to others beyond R&H
for assistance in his problems and escapades. Going to Lupin for help with the
Dementors is a huge step for him, I think. And, he does begin to seek Sirius'
help in GoF. Interestingly, it is a charge of arrogant, self-reliance that
Barty, Jr. qua Moody lays at Harry's feet. Harry had the key to the 2nd task
in his own bedroom, but, as Bart, Jr. points out, Harry was too arrogant to ask
for assistance from others. (And maybe too arrogant to ask for the help of a
near-Squib like Neville?)
Coming back to failure, from Harry's point of view, I think he does feel
dogged by failure. Despite Dumbledore's words at the end of POA, Harry does
believe he is responsible, in full or in part, for the servant's return to
Voldemort, and hence for Voldemort's resurrection. He felt very responsible for
Cedric's death -- "I told him to take it" (or similar). In book 5, I would not be
at all surprised if we continue to see Harry wrestling with this guilt.
T.
The Good Mother Lizard
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