Wizards and the Queen

[sachmet96]

No: HPFGUIDX 83960


> Ray:
> As mentioned earlier, I read this comment differently.  There 
really can't be 
> two "Prime" anythings,

sachmet96:
Yes there can. I don't see a problem with having two Prime Ministers. 
When the two governments are separated which I believe they are then 
it makes sense. Like most states do have PM, the difference is that 
while there is a territorial separation there, with the Muggle and 
Magical PM there is one between magical and non magical people.

Ray
> so the phrase "Muggle Prime Minister" says to me that 
> the WW believes that the PM and other Ministers dictate life in the 
Muggle 
> world, not theirs.

sachmet96:
I agree and that is why I believe the WW can have a prime minister 
too.

Ray:
>  The existance of the Minister of Magic, indeed, the entire 
> Ministry, is unknown to the Muggle world.
> 
> I'm assuming that the WW recognizes the person and power of the 
Sovereign 
> (ancient instutions tend to respect each other, however 
grudgingly), and thus, it 
> is the Minister of Magic alone, and not the Prime Minister, who 
deleivers the 
> Queen's will to them.

sachmet96:
I hope no one takes this wrongly but why should the WW world 
accept/recognise the Queen? I don't think they would as they don't 
seem to have any (or very little) relation to the Muggle history. 
They stay out of Muggle affairs as far as possible and they teach 
History of Magic in school and not Muggle history which the Queen 
(monarchy) would be a part of. 
And when I was in Britain I noticed that the picture of the Queen can 
be found on the money, does she appear on the wizarding money too? I 
can't remember, but if she doesn't I would take that they don't 
accept the queen as their head of state.


Ray:
> Now, this does open the question of Parliament.  Does the "muggle" 
parliament 
> make laws for the wizarding community?  I doubt it.  Nor do I 
imagine that 
> the MoM works by dictate of the Minister.  Thus, there must be a 
representative 
> legislature of the WW, perhaps the Wizengamot or something like it.

sachmet96:
I see the WW as totally separated from the Muggle world with it's own 
government. I think the relationship between the two could be like 
the relationship between two countries, they just happen to share the 
same territory.