First name adressing = same House? + Snape the Vampire (yes, again)

junediamanti june.diamanti at blueyonder.co.uk
Thu Nov 6 11:12:21 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 84209

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "delphislash" 
<delphislash at y...> wrote:
> > This could also be evidence of Lily being on the quidditch 
team.  A 
> great deal of school-aged sports players become known more by 
their 
> last names, and at the schools I attended, it was generally only 
> polite to call a girl by her last name if this was the case.
> 
> Just a thought.
> 
> -Delphi

To my mind, and as an inhabitant of the same kind of school culture 
as this, it was common for people to address each other by surname 
only. 

The use of Christian names tended to be as follows:

1.  Among girls.

2.  Between boys who were close friends, but usually NOT if someone 
else was present.

3.  During particular moments where the use of christian names was 
more appropriate.  In the scene between Tom and Hagrid, Tom is 
ostensibly (though we know his true motivation is otherwise) 
behaving in a "head-boy" almost avuncular or elder brother manner 
towards Hagrid.  They are alone too, I suspect it would be different 
if anyone else was there at that time.  

My school was a fairly traditional grammar school - this was the 
kind of school that you did not pay fees to get into, but passed 
into on merit following an exam.  To my way of thinking, JKR has 
carefully blended elements of the top two tiers of the older English 
System of education where the first tier was the English Public 
Boarding school (eg Eton, Winchester - famous schools) and the 
second tier was the Grammar school for academically abler pupils, 
generally these were day schools.  Hogwarts lacks a good deal of the 
snobbery prevalent in the Public school system (though it is still 
there - see Malfoy).  My school had houses too, though they were 
largely sporting competitions.  

Certainly, going back to use of first or surnames, this I do 
remember.  No male fellow pupil would have risked calling a same-age 
female by her first name for fear of being mercilessly ragged for 
fancying her, or her being his girlfriend.  For some reason, we all 
got on first name terms in the sixth year but not before.  Don't 
know why.

As James DOES fancy Lily, he is probably at pains NOT to draw 
attention to the fact and that is his prime motivator for calling 
her Evans.  He does in fact ask her out in the Penseive scene but I 
think he is covering up his real feelings by making the whole 
exchange seem jocular - there is a very adolescent forced heartiness 
in his manner that I remember only too well.

"I'll put him down if you go out with me" (or words to that 
effect).  He means it.  But he's pretending he doesn't - so he can 
keep face in front of Sirius and the others.

June





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