[HPforGrownups] Re: Responsability for Sirius's Death

[Kathryn Cawte]

No: HPFGUIDX 84620


> > Me (K)
> >
> > who was going to make his whereabouts known? Most of the DEs were
> escaed
> > prisoners, Voldemort was trying to pretend he didn't existy. That
> leaves
> > people like Lucius malfoy - who was in the building to try and kill
> Harry
> > Potter - how exactly were they going to report it to the Ministry?
>
> sachmet96:
> Fudge did come in the end. It was only lucky that the body of Sirius
> went through the veil, else there would have been trouble for the
> Order and Dumbledore, how were they to explain his presence?
> That's what I meant.
>
K

If he was dead someone else would have had to disguise him in some way, or
hope he got overlooked. If he'd been alive he could have transformed into
Padfoot


> sachmet96:
> I was of the impression they had to hurryI don't think they had the
> time to discuss with a probably stubborn and unreasonalbe Sirius (and
> make him see sense) so they had to take him with them, if they wanted
> to or not.
>
K

But if it was as vital as you seem to be saying then surely they would have
said "Oh for goodness sake we'll have to take him Tonks stay here and tell
DD" or someting similar not "Oh we'll have to take him, never mind I'm sure
DD'll work out where we are eventually"


>
> sachmet96:
> I disagree there. As his godfather it is his responsibility to care
> for Harry right, but that does mean to stay alive and not die on him
> or try to rescue him when there were other people to do it who were
> suited to do it. I think that was irresponsible of Sirius.
>

K

I don't understand why you think he was less suited to make the rescue than
the others. That was my point that he was as capable as the others and in no
more danger than them so why should he let them go off into danger and stay
at home himself.



> sachmet96:
> Not if Sirius had stayed behind as instructed. DD was the important
> person in the fight and because of Sirius he was too late and so all
> others were unnecessarily endangered.
>

K

I don't think DD was delayed all that much or like I say someone would have
left him a message when Sirius decided not to stay at home

sachmet96
> I think we both just have to agree to disagree on this matter :-).
>
>
K
Yeah I don't think either of us is going to persuade the other of their
opinion :)

K