Ogg the Gamekeeper

justcarol67 justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Wed Nov 12 06:32:56 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 84775

I wrote:
> 
> è You're probably right, since JKR seldom drops names
> è casually. Ogg doesn't sound like a wizard's name to
> è me. Maybe he was another half-blood of some sort. It
> è sounds about as human as Grawp. But I'm just
> è guessing, and was actually more concerned with Mrs.
> è Weasley's age than with Grawp himself. (Oops! Ogg, I
> è mean.) I don't see how she could have been to school
> è before Hagrid's time, and I'm not sure that the
> è apprentice explanation fully solves that problem.
> 
> 
Tonks wrote:

Last spring ( around May, I think?) we discussed Molly's age extensively. 
> There was always disagreement,  but the general consensus was that
Molly was 
> around 60. ( I am still not convinced of this). What we do know is
that Voldemort 
> and Hagrid were at school. If Ogg was gamekeeper then, and Molly
knows of Ogg, 
> she could well be sixty five by now because of Voldemort and Hagrid
being at 
> school together fifty years ago. 
,snip>
> 
> However, there is still the fact that Hagrid, being just an
apprentice and 
> not a paid staff member, might not have shown himself to students as
he did once 
> he became gamekeeper, thus, Molly could be much younger than was
thought. ( 
<snip>
> There are a few ages Molly could be because of the lack of clarity
in canon, 
> but that might be for a reason. As we have learned, JKR rarely does
anything 
> without a reason.
> 
> -Tonks


Sorry I didn't check the back posts. I'm a bit pressed for time. I
still think it would be strange for Molly to be about 65 as the Ogg
connection suggests. The descriptions of her make her sound
middle-aged, say 45, and as I said before, unless there's something
more to her character than we know about, she seems like the type who
would marry early, and, as I didn't say, have a child about every 18
months to two years. (I like Molly. Please don't take this as
criticism.) the only explanation I can think of that would reconcile
Molly as we've seen her with Molly as a woman older than Voldemort is
the idea that witches and wizards live longer, and by extension age
more slowly, than muggles. JKR said in an interview that Dumbledore
(who seems about 85) is 150 and MacGonagall (who seems about 55) is "a
sprightly 70). If anyone can come up with a better explanation, I'd
like to hear it. (Maybe you could just refer me to a particularly
enlightening back post.)

Carol






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