In Defence Of Lupin ( very, very long) Part Two

[annemehr]

No: HPFGUIDX 85333

First of all, kudos to Tonks for a great pair of posts!  Jumping in on
her side, I want to refer to Lupin's part in the DoM battle:

Tonks wrote:
> Our next scene with Lupin in OoP has caused much suspicion. Lupin
and Sirius 
> with others from the Order arrive at the Ministry to save Harry.
There is a 
> great battle and Sirius falls behind the veil. Lupin explains to
Harry that he 
> is gone. I have read the theories. ESE!Lupin doesn't want Harry to
find out 
> what is behind the veil, etc. Rubbish, IMO.
<snip>
>From 
> what we know the veil, it is the veil between life and death.<snip>
Lupin 
> stopping Harry is Lupin keeping Harry from suicide.

And:
> In the battle with the DE's. there has been more speculation on
ESE!Lupin and 
> the prophecy. I agree with those that have said if ESE!Lupin were a
reality, 
> he would have endeavoured to save the prophecy, but if you look at
the scene 
> his main focus is saving Harry's bum. He is clearly not working for LV.

Annemehr:
Actually, I think your case is stronger than you make out.

First, to deal with whether or not the veil is the gateway to death: I
agree that JKR intends that it is, and I'm also aware of the
speculation that it really isn't, that Sirius is really hidden
somewhere.  Really, the two sides are at an impasse and there's not
much point in arguing until there's more information. Still, even if
you are one who believes "the veil is not what it seems," you have
nothing to point to Good!Lupin or ESE!Lupin based on this bit of pure
speculation which could lead anywhere -- meaning no disrespect for
your interpretation but only to say that it proves nothing about Lupin.

Also, as Anne Geldermann has just pointed out on another Lupin thread
(post #85313), it certainly would have been very easy for Lupin to
allow Harry to run through the veil by just pretending he was unable
to hold him.  After all, Harry is described as struggling "viciously"
against Lupin in order to reach the veil.  I imagine Lupin is quite a
bit bruised.  He really did save Harry from an unintended suicide.

But, Lupin did it to save the prophecy, some say?  Why?  Voldemort
wanted that prophecy in the hope that it contained a clue as to how he
could kill Harry.  If Harry runs himself and the prophecy orb right
through the veil, Voldemort has won.  One could even argue that the
prophecy itself would then be fulfilled, that Harry would have then
died *at Voldemort's hand,* if we don't have to take that clause
literally.  After all, the situation itself was set up directly by
Voldemort, so responsibility for Harry's death would have been traced
back to him. Anyway, if you *really* want to take that clause
literally, one of them is going to have to strangle the other with his
bare hands.

Count on it.  If Lupin was ESE, he would have let Harry run right
through that veil.

Annemehr