Defending Ron WAS Re: Hermione

justcarol67 justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Fri Nov 21 07:23:14 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 85615

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "uilnslcoap"
<devin.smither at y...> wrote:
> > As for Hermione, I like her.  Sure she is an arrogant, little swot. 
> > What teenage isn't arrogant at that age?  I was.  Hermione is not 
> > afraid to take on her firends and challenge them when it's 
> important, 
> > encourage them when they really need it and says no when they are 
> > wrong.  Hermione is a far better friend than Ron could ever be to 
> > Harry, who is nothing more than a drinking buddy who agrees with 
> > everything Harry wants and does.  Don't get me wrong we need all 
> need 
> > faithful friends like Ron, but it's those friends that let us 
> fester 
> > on the couch, (which is cool for about a day) when what we really 
> > need is a quick kick in the back side from the Hermione's of the 
> > world.  We'd all be lucky to have a friend like Hermione.
> 
> I like Hermione, too.  But I feel compelled to shade Ron from the 
> sycophantic (I would even say boorish) light you paint him in.
> 
> Ron often understands what Harry needs (or at least wants) better 
> than Hermione does.  Look at how he brings up the idea that Harry 
> mayn't want to date Cho just after their kiss.  I believe Hermione's 
> brain goes, "Harry's liked her awhile + They kissed = He wants to 
> date her."  Ron sees that the workings of Harry's thoughts on the 
> subject might not be quite so simple and says so out loud.  Hermione 
> gives better advice about girls, of course, but it's often Ron who 
> understands when it's pointless to pester Harry about something and 
> tells Hermione to let it go (which, to her credit, she sometimes does 
> take as the proper advice and which indicates that Hermione herself 
> believes Ron can be right about how to treat Harry).
> 
> Look, also, at the suffering Harry undergoes, when Ron departs due to 
> their fight in GoF.  That lack of emotional support is just as 
> harmful to him as the lack of Hermione's intellectual support (due to 
> petrification) in CoS for instance where Harry only puts it together 
> because he's lucky enough that Hermione's brain put it together 
> before she got incapacitated.  He can't function too well without 
> either of them.
> 
> Ron also has not been incapable of disagreeing with Harry in the 
> past.  In OotP, he makes it clear that he doesn't believe Harry's 
> accomplishments of the past four years were worthless or all based on 
> luck even when Harry clearly starts to get angry.  I'm sorry I can't 
> think of anymore right now, but I am certain if I had the books in 
> front of me, I could find several more.
> 
> I just think it's harsh to say that Hermione's "a far better friend 
> than Ron could ever be."  I believe that question could only be 
> answered by Harry and it's clear that he likes them both very much.  
> I think that both types of support are valid and necessary to Harry, 
> and that just because one prefers one type to the other does not make 
> it true that one type of friendship is "better" than the other.  
> Although I like Ron's variety of friendship more, I would never claim 
> that he's "a far better friend" than Hermione could ever be, that's 
> all.
> 
> Devin

One small addition: It's always Ron, not Hermione, whose mentioned by
the narrator as Harry's best friend (usually when he's missing them
during his summers with the Dursleys). Most notably it's Ron, not
Hermione, whom Harry is assigned to rescue in the Second Task of the
Tri-Wizard Tournament. The "thing he would miss most" is his "Wheezy."
(It's Viktor Krum who would miss "Hermowninny.")

Carol





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