Timeline for ages & events (updated yet again)

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 85895

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Marci" <blackgold101 at y...> wrote:
> Check out new info added to timeline and see if you agree.  Input 
> appreciated.
> 
> Marci (down with Lexicon)  LOL
>  
> > As for the timeline, it has been broadened a bit and is on the web 
> > and up for review.  I hope you all can take a look and give some 
> > input. ..edited...
> > 
> > Marci


bboy_mn:

Molly and Arthur -
While this is much debated, the bulk of concensus seems to be for
Molly and Arther being in their 70's. They are older than Hagrid who
was 63 in CoS; (13 when expelled, CoS is 50 years later; 13+50=63). 

Molly remembers the caretaker before Hagrid; Ogg. That means Molly was
in school before Hagrid was expelled; I think that is for certain. 

Now the question becomes, how much before Hagrid? Some speculate that
Hagrid didn't instantly take over for Ogg, and that's a fair 
accessment, but I think Hagrid is a pretty hard guy not to spot, and
Molly makes no mention of Hagrid at all when she is reminiscing about
her old school days. Knowing Harry and Hagrid are good friends, I
would think she would have thrown some mention of Hagrid into the
conversation. 

So, my conclusion is that Molly was in school before Hagrid. If there
was some overlap in their school years, it was small; eg: Hagrid was
starting as Molly was finishing. So, I speculate a difference in their
ages to be between 4 and 10 years (although, it could be more than
10). Hagrid in the most recent book, OoP, is about 66, that makes
Molly and Arthur between 70 and 76 years old. I do sense that
McGonagall is older than Molly, and that keeps me from stretching the
age gap between Hagrid and Molly too far. This is something that has
been discussed at great length, although, those posts are pretty far
back. 


Harry Potter-
He's not in you timeline. Born July 31, 1980. Starts School in Sept. 1991.


Charlie Weasley-

It would seem that he is 12 or 13 years older than Harry. When Harry
starts Hogwarts, Gryffindor hasn't won the Quidditch Cup for seven
years; not since Charlie Weasley was Seeker. The question then
becomes, when was Charlie Weasley Seeker? Nothing specifically and
flatly says it was during his last year at Hogwarts. Although, I
honestly think that is a fair assumption.

Then comes the question of whether going back seven years in time
takes you to the first defeated year, or the last successfull year?
There are implications, but I don't know if anything definitively
confirms which.

I think perhaps the strongest evidence, Syltherin having won 6
consecutive titles, would make 7 years ago, the last winning year for
Gryffindor and Charlie's last school year. 

Expanding further, the 1991/1992 (PS/SS current) school year would be
Slythrin's seventh consecutive win. Since the Cup is awared near the
end of the school year, I think we count from the end dates. 1992 is
the 7th win for Slytherin, 1985/1986 was the first win. That would
make 1984/1985 the last year Gryffindor won and Charlie's last year in
school. In the year 1985, Charlie is likely 17 about to turn 18 years
old. In that same year (1985), Harry is age 5. That creates a 12 year
difference between their ages. Harry's birth (1980) minus a 12 year
differential (1980-12=1968) equals 1968. 

This conclusion, is clouded by not knowing the exact dates of
everyone's birthday, but I think if we assume that during the school
year Charlie was 17 and Harry was 5, we can somewhat ignore those
exact birthdates.

Best conclusion I can reach; Charlie Weasley was born in 1968. that
would make him 24 during Harry's first school year, and 28 during the
most recent book (OoP). 

Side note: the Harry Potter Lexicon confirms my estimate that 1985 was
Charlie's last year in School; so 1985 - 17YrsOld = 1968, again
confirming 1968 as the correct date.

Bill Weasley - 
It's a safe estimate that Bill is two years older than Charlie; 1968 -
2 = 1966. Bill was probably born in 1966.

Side note: Bill says in Gof that he hasn't seen Hogwarts in 5 years,
but that by no means implies that 5 years ago was when he graduated.
It just happens to be the last time he visited the school. So, this
reference can't really be used to establish either Charlie or Bill
school years. It's no more significant that the last time I visited
the grocery store.


Slightly Off-Topic-
In your timeline, at the first occurrance of the date 1980, we see
several names-

"1980 - Ron Weasley (3), Dudley Dursley (6), Harry Potter (7), Neville
Longbottom (7), Hermione Granger (9), Draco Malfoy (?)"

What do the numbers in parenthesis mean; Ron Weasley (3), etc?

Just a few thoughts.

bboy_mn