Timeline for ages & events (updated yet again)

Marci blackgold101 at yahoo.com
Wed Nov 26 17:54:54 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 85900

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboy_mn at y...> wrote:
> bboy_mn:
> 
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> 
> Charlie Weasley-
> 
> It would seem that he is 12 or 13 years older than Harry. When Harry
> starts Hogwarts, Gryffindor hasn't won the Quidditch Cup for seven
> years; not since Charlie Weasley was Seeker. The question then
> becomes, when was Charlie Weasley Seeker? Nothing specifically and
> flatly says it was during his last year at Hogwarts. Although, I
> honestly think that is a fair assumption.
> 
> Then comes the question of whether going back seven years in time
> takes you to the first defeated year, or the last successfull year?
> There are implications, but I don't know if anything definitively
> confirms which.
> 
> I think perhaps the strongest evidence, Syltherin having won 6
> consecutive titles, would make 7 years ago, the last winning year 
for
> Gryffindor and Charlie's last school year. 
> 
> Expanding further, the 1991/1992 (PS/SS current) school year would 
be
> Slythrin's seventh consecutive win. Since the Cup is awared near the
> end of the school year, I think we count from the end dates. 1992 is
> the 7th win for Slytherin, 1985/1986 was the first win. That would
> make 1984/1985 the last year Gryffindor won and Charlie's last year 
in
> school. 

Me:
In 9/91, at the feast, Nearly Headless Nick says Slytherin has won 
the HOUSE cup six years in a row.  At the end of the year, 6/92, they 
(Slytherin) had won it again until Dumbledore hands out last minute 
points to Harry, Ron, Hermione and Neville, giving the win of the 
HOUSE cup to Gryffindor.  Without Harry in the last match of the 
year, Ravenclaw won the last game of the year and the QUIDDITCH cup.


>In the year 1985, Charlie is likely 17 about to turn 18 years
> old. In that same year (1985), Harry is age 5. That creates a 12 
year
> difference between their ages. Harry's birth (1980) minus a 12 year
> differential (1980-12=1968) equals 1968. 
> 
> This conclusion, is clouded by not knowing the exact dates of
> everyone's birthday, but I think if we assume that during the school
> year Charlie was 17 and Harry was 5, we can somewhat ignore those
> exact birthdates.
> 
> Best conclusion I can reach; Charlie Weasley was born in 1968. that
> would make him 24 during Harry's first school year, and 28 during 
the
> most recent book (OoP). 
> 
> Side note: the Harry Potter Lexicon confirms my estimate that 1985 
was
> Charlie's last year in School; so 1985 - 17YrsOld = 1968, again
> confirming 1968 as the correct date.

Me:
I noticed this as well.  This is what I had first.


> Bill Weasley - 
> It's a safe estimate that Bill is two years older than Charlie; 
1968 -
> 2 = 1966. Bill was probably born in 1966.
> 
> Side note: Bill says in Gof that he hasn't seen Hogwarts in 5 years,
> but that by no means implies that 5 years ago was when he graduated.
> It just happens to be the last time he visited the school. So, this
> reference can't really be used to establish either Charlie or Bill
> school years. It's no more significant that the last time I visited
> the grocery store.

Me:
Why not imply that is when he graduated?  Why would that summize a 
visit?  For what reason does Bill have to visit Hogwarts?  If it can 
be assumed that he visited, it can also be assumed that is when he 
graduated.

This is why question marks remain with the two oldest Weasley 
brothers.

Marci






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