Thrice defied HIM [Harry]

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No: HPFGUIDX 82247

InfiniteWhispers writes in 82228 (snipped):


> "The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches...born 
> to those who have thrice defied him, born as the seventh month 
> dies... and the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, but he will 
> have a power the Dark Lord knows not... and either must die at the 
> hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives..."
>  
> I think, it makes sense for the 'HIM' they're talking about 
in "born to those  who have thrice defied him" to be Harry, because 
in that same sentence,  they're talking about Harry. The one with the 
power to vanquish the dark lord  [Harry], born to parents who have 
thrice defied him [Harry], born as the seventh  month dies [Harry]...
> 


hg replies:
I was writing back and forth for awhile with someone who had an 
unusual theory -- that "born to those who had thrice defied him" did 
indeed mean that the Dark Lord was born to those who had thrice 
defied him, because Harry and Ginny are Voldemort's parents.

The implications of such a theory are tremendous. 

It would mean that Voldemort got the "recipe" a little wrong back in 
the graveyard -- it would have been bone of the enemy/blood of the 
father -- and so it would have worked, but not quite how he wanted.

Ginny has defied LV twice at least (pitching the diary into the 
toilet; kicking and screaming all the way to the chamber.)

Furthermore, JK would have to have Harry and Ginny conceive a child, 
have Ginny go back in time to 1926 or so, deliver the baby, and die.  
(Her theory included that Ginny could know that she had to go back in 
time to save Harry or something and that she then lost her memory 
somehow...?)  I added in our conversations that Ginny could pretend 
to die (Draught of Living Death -- can be reversed w/ a bezoar, from 
a goat, thanks to Aberforth).  Whew -- that's a tough one.

This could certainly qualify as a "power the Dark Lord knows not," 
couldn't it!


The hard part with this, of course, is having Harry and Ginny 
conceive a child and travel back in time and hook up with Tom 
Riddle's father somehow to arrange all this; still, there's enough 
that happens in the Time Turner episode to convince us that what we 
see is not necessarily what it was -- Buckbeak didn't die, for 
example.  So Tom Riddle's mother, we have heard, died in childbirth; 
but it wouldn't necessarily be too far off for that death to be faked 
w/ the DLD.

I know it's out there!  Don't flame me, I'm just telling you all 
someone else's theory.  It was interesting enough to entertain and 
discuss, but you guys should know me well enough by now to know I 
never put all my weight behind any one theory b/c I can never see all 
the parts -- and so I'll admit anything is a possibility until I read 
the last word of book 7.  Unless there's absolutely no evidence for 
it.

Have fun if it interests you, but be nice.
hg.