Neville and the Prophecy (Was Re: A litte more on the Prophecy)
kneazle255
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Sat Oct 4 11:22:38 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 82258
Donna writes:
OotP pg. 829 US Hardcover Edition -
"And then you saw Rookwood, who worked in the Department of
Mysteries before his arrest, telling Voldemort what we had known all
along - that the prophecies held in the Ministry of Magic are heavily
protected. Only the people to whom they refer can lift them from the
shelves without suffering madness. In this case, either Voldemort
himself would have to enter the Ministry of Magic and risk revealing
himself at last - or else you would have to take it for him."
Once the prophesy is taken from the shelf, then anyone could handle
it. Otherwise, Voldemort would still have to have been at the MoM to
take the prophesy from Harry. But he sent his Death Eaters to bring
it back to him.
Melody writes:
All Malfoy told Harry is "only people who are permitted to retrieve a
prophecy from the Dept of Mysteries, Potter, are those about whom it
was made..." (OoP, Ch 35).
Harry passed the prophecy to Neville, which is the same transaction
Malfoy was attempting.
Kneazle writes:
I know. But on the other hand, we don't know if there are other
protections on those globes. We don't know because no one else
touches it.
We don't know what Voldemort told the bulk of the deatheaters regarding the
prophecy or the impact of holding the globe. Voldemort might not care if a
deatheater goes nuts. Does Rookwood ever ask for it? I know he knows.
I know he told Voldemort. I don't know what Voldemort told the other
Deatheaters.
But stepping back from all that for a minute, JKR is a bit cagey with
Neville in the MoM. The bit where Neville takes the prophecy is sort
of indirect. And then there's the whole humorous aspect of Neville's
broken nose. It just smells like she's trying to divert us from
something really important.
Neville, the only other possible candidate for the prophecy born at
the right time in 1980, is the only other person to hold the prophecy
almost 16 years later?
And the MoM has the globe labelled 'Harry Potter(?)' DD assumes that
it applies just to Harry. So did I. The Ministry does not.
The coincidence, if that's what it is, coupled with JKR's
indirection, is a bit much for me to dismiss out of hand.
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