Neville and the Prophecy (Was Re: A litte more on the Prophecy)

kneazle255 kneazle255 at yahoo.com
Sat Oct 4 11:22:38 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 82258

Donna writes:

OotP pg. 829 US Hardcover Edition - 

"And then you saw Rookwood, who worked in the Department of 
Mysteries  before his arrest, telling Voldemort what we had known all 
along - that the prophecies held in the Ministry of Magic are heavily 
protected.  Only the people to whom they refer can lift them from the 
shelves without suffering madness.  In this case, either Voldemort 
himself would have to enter the Ministry of Magic and risk revealing 
 himself at last - or else you would have to take it for him."
 
Once the prophesy is taken from the shelf, then anyone could handle 
it.  Otherwise, Voldemort would still have to have been at the MoM to 
take the prophesy from Harry.  But he sent his Death Eaters to bring 
 it back to him.  

Melody writes:

All Malfoy told Harry is "only people who are permitted to retrieve a
prophecy from the Dept of Mysteries, Potter, are those about whom it
was made..."  (OoP, Ch 35).

Harry passed the prophecy to Neville, which is the same transaction
Malfoy was attempting. 

Kneazle writes:

I know. But on the other hand, we don't know if there are other 
protections on those globes. We don't know because no one else 
touches it.

We don't know what Voldemort told the bulk of the deatheaters regarding the 
prophecy or the impact of holding the globe. Voldemort might not care if a 
deatheater goes nuts. Does Rookwood ever ask for it? I know he knows. 
I know he told Voldemort. I don't know what Voldemort told the other 
Deatheaters. 

But stepping back from all that for a minute, JKR is a bit cagey with 
Neville in the MoM. The bit where Neville takes the prophecy is sort 
of indirect. And then there's the whole humorous aspect of Neville's 
broken nose. It just smells like she's trying to divert us from 
something really important.

Neville, the only other possible candidate for the prophecy born at 
the right time in 1980, is the only other person to hold the prophecy 
almost 16 years later?

And the MoM has the globe labelled 'Harry Potter(?)' DD assumes that 
it applies just to Harry. So did I. The Ministry does not.

The coincidence, if that's what it is, coupled with JKR's 
indirection, is a bit much for me to dismiss out of hand.








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