Why is everyone so convinced the prophecy is correct?
deedeee88
dfran at sbcglobal.net
Sun Oct 5 10:26:42 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 82297
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "kneazle255" <kneazle255 at y...>
wrote:
>
> persephone_kore wrote:
> <snip>
> Actually, I suspect that this may be an intrinsic feature of
> foreseeing in HP. You can see bits or signs of the future, but it
will
> /never/ have just one possible meaning until after it's all over.
>
> And I don't see why readers aren't suspecting that JKR might play
on
> this too. Maybe it will turn out that the prophecy is wrong. Maybe
> Harry won't be the one to vanquish Voldy.
>
> Kneazle:
>
> I concur,(and with HG's post #82166), but I don't believe the
> prophecy is wrong. I just think the Prophecy can be satisfied by a
> number of wildly different scenarios.
>
> In the Dept of Mysteries the prophecy is labelled "Voldemort and
> Harry Potter(?)" It may not refer to Harry at all, but that doesn't
> make it wrong. DD seems convinced the prophecy refers to Harry, but
> DD has been wrong before. Or DD could be lying.
>
> I wonder if someone (Kneasy? Talisman?) has considered the truly
> horror-inspiring possibility that Dumbledore has been using HP as a
> decoy for sixteen years to protect Neville Longbottom.
>
> I think I just gave myself nightmares.
DeeDee I agree with Neville actually being the one...
Was Neville marked as an equal when DE's on V's orders essencially
made him an orphan even though he was not..just like Voldemort until
his late teens? (Not to mention if they played with his memory to
boot--did the DE's cast a spell to submerse Neville's magic?).
Did, in not hearing the entire prophecy, Voldemort end up giving
himself two opponents to contend with but only obsessed with one?
How did Neville manage to survive the night HIS parents were tortured?
Did the "neither can survive while the other lives" mean Harry's
parents?(could his father still be alive--is this why the order of
people emerging from the wand was askew in the graveyard scene?)
--or--
Does this foreshadow something that must happen to either Neville or
Harry? (Will Harry join his parent(s)/Sirius on the other side of the
veil and Neville's parents be cured and Neville be able to
live/rather than survive?)
We only see the story from Harry's perspective most of the time. How
often does Neville visit with DD? We DO see that many staff members
show him "extra consideration"--even Snape.
Prophecies are always subject to interpretation. We have to watch
how all the characters in the story initially interpret/question.
Harry had a question regarding why it couldn't be Neville...
We have to wait to see if Firenze will make a comment on it. Madame
T has made other vague predictions...She saw a Grim around
Harry....but we cannot rule out that she simply saw Sirius and
interpreted wrong.
And then, we have Ron's sarcastic remarks throughout the series.
So many questions and so few answers I get the feeling that we'll
have even more questions at the end of the series.
I'm off to start reading the series yet again...searching to find out
whose wrong all or most of the time in the series thus far. (Who will
it be? Ron? Hermione? Harry? DD? or my #1 candidate at this time--
Malfoy(teehee).
DeeDee
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