Lily and James, a hpappy couple?

jeffl1965 jeffl1965 at hotpop.com
Fri Oct 10 11:11:07 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 82635

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "slgazit" <slgazit at s...> wrote:

    Jeff:
> > I'd forgotten about the bit about the 
> > photo, but that does make sense, unless that Jo meant to hint 
that 
> > his purpose was to make problems for them?
> 
   slgazit:
> I think that JKR's had several things in mind when she had Peter 
sit 
> between James and Lily in the photo. One was the shock value to 
> Harry - he sees the picture, listens to Moody's commentary in which 
> every other person depicted has either been killed or became 
> incapacitated; then he is confronted with his parents, seated 
> alongside their betrayer as best friends. Followed immediately by 
the 
> scene with Mrs. Weasley and the boggart. I don't think he'd have 
been 
> as affected if Peter was not in the picture. It is also a subtle 
> reminder to us that there are likely to be both losses and betrayal 
> for the newly recreated OoP, and that the betrayer is likely to be 
> someone noone suspects.
> 
  
   Jeff:
    Agreed. It's almost like a Last Supper type of photo. The 
betrayer sitting amongst them, in friendship with the others totally 
unaware of the dire fate that awaits them all. 
    Who will be the Judas for this version? I'd vote for Tonks. I 
don't really know why, but she tends to stick out like Peter does, 
imho. I don't mean to offend her fans, as I *do* like her, but I just 
have this feeling, and I could be very wrong.

  slgazit:
> For the readers this is also meant to convey how much Lily and 
James 
> trusted Peter and viewed him as part of their family, moreso even 
> than Lupin and Sirius. It is possible that this subtly indicates 
that 
> while Sirius and James (seated side by side? don't have the book 
with 
> me) were best friends, Lily probably was more friendly with Peter 
> than with the other two.
> 
   Jeff:

     That could be. The prior history of the group is too scarce to 
make an eductated guess, but this theory makes sense. It looks like 
Lily hated James at first and more than likely would want to stick 
her nose into his affairs when she felt he was going too far. Not 
meant as an insult, just an observation. 
  
    JEff:
    > >     I did think it was intresting that after seeing James as 
a 
> bully, 
> > and Lily not being fond of him, would actually marry him just a 
few 
> > short years later. I guess James could've made a big change, but 
> from 
> > how Sirius acted, I dont know how true that is.
> 

   slgazit:
> We know that James changed more than Sirius because of the 
Shrieking 
> Shack incident, when Sirius lured Snape to the shack where Lupin 
was 
> hidden, and James risked his life to save him.
> 
   Jeff:
   Ah, but did he do it on his own, of because Lily made him? If they 
were falling in love at this point, James could've done it out of 
love for her, not for anything else. If you think about it, he went 
against his best friend to save a common enemy. Only a whipped male 
would dare go against his best friend. :) I've seen this in too many 
married freinds, and it's just part of love, I guess.


   Jeff





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