Pippin, you've done it again! (Was -who will betray the Order?)
samnanya
yswahl at stis.net
Sun Oct 12 15:27:32 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 82769
pippin_999
We are looking for someone who is supposed to be
nice, and close enough to Harry for him to take the betrayal
personally. I'd say the candidates are: Dumbledore, Hagrid,
Hermione, Lupin, Molly and Ron. Any others? Most of you know
which one I'd pick.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/39362
My assessment of ESE!Lupin's motives is out of date. Even I have
trouble imagining him as a maddog killer,...
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Once again, Pippin has a throroughly thought out theory that is worth
looking at........ and once again, I run with her premise and am
reading everything in a new light...... be warned - you are about to
see a beloved character in a new light.......
In the climactic battle at the MoM, the one assumption that everyone
seems to make including Harry is that Bellatrix killed Sirius. Even
Harry says so in no uncertain terms..... but on a careful reread and
reread again and under the assumption that Lupin is evil, I am not so
sure anymore.....
OOP pg 804 --- Lupin is the one who suggests that Harry "round up the
others and GO!" no big deal there until .....
OOP pg 805 --- "Only one couple was were still battling.... Harry saw
Sirius duck Bellatrix's jet of red light: He was lauging at her. "Come
on, you can do better than that!" he yelled, his voice echoing around
the cavernous room. {{Harry was watching Sirius...... not Bellatrix}}
The second jet of light hit him squarely on the chest. {{Harry saw the
light hit -- he did NOT NECESSARILY see who attacked Sirius, just that
Sirius was hit. Harry ASSUMED it was Bellatrix who did the hitting. I
had assumed that Sirius and Bellatrix were fighting up close and that
Bellatrix was on the dais with Sirius - that is not necessarily the
case. SIRIUS was on the dais because he later fell into the veil and
didnt jump up or down after he was mortally wounded, but Bellatrix
could have been anywhere. Her later battle with Harry was all done at
a distance!}}.
The laughter had not quite died from his face, but his eyes widened in
shock. {{I thought that it was from getting hit by Bellatrix and his
reckless spirit could not believe that he would die. This attitude of
Sirius as a risktaker was supported all through the books! But now I
fear that "his eyes widened in shock" because he was hit BY LUPIN and
the shock was the shock of BETRAYAL BY A DEAR AND TRUSTED FRIEND.}}
Harry released Neville, though he was unaware of doing so. He was
jumping down the steps again, pulling out his wand, as Dumbledore
turned to the dais too. {{ Harry was ABOVE the dais looking down, and
DUMBLEDORE DID NOT SEE WHAT HAPPENED since he "turned to the dais too"
DD was preoccupied rounding up the remaining death eaters and did not
see Sirius get hit.}}
It seemed to take Sirius an age to fall. His body curved in a graceful
arc as he sank backward through the ragged veil hanging from the arch
.... {{Sirius could have been hit in the chest from a shot fired BELOW
the dais, the force of the spell forcing him to arch BACKWARD through
the veil. Remember he was ducking Bellatrix' first shot....}}
And Harry saw the look of mingled fear and suprise on his godfather's
wasted, once handsome face as he fell .... {{look of suprise mentioned
a SECOND time - a usual sign that JKR wanted us not to forget it,
though not the reason for the suprise....}}
Harry heard Bellatrix Lastrange's triumphant scream ...... {{which JKR
mentions because she wants THE READRES to think that Bellatrix had
something to do with Sirius' death ....... Harry sure linked the two
together... and now the coup de grace ...........}}
But as he reached the ground and sprinted towards the dais, Lupin
grabbed Harry around the chest .... {{LUPIN WAS AT GROUND LEVEL BELOW
THE DAIS !!! IF SIRIUS DUCKED BELLATRIX' SHOT AND WAS LOOKING AT HER,
HE WOULD BE DEAD MEAT IF LUPIN FIRED A SPELL AT HIM FROM BELOW....}}
For anyone who thinks this is a good example of blibbering, pls read
Pippin's post ........
That said, I am now about to be ill .......... I am convinced that
Lupin (is/will be) the traitor to the order ...... as Pippin said in
her first post, please somebody, prove me wrong ........ please...
And worse yet, since I am a huge Luna fan, the paths of Lupin and Luna
will cross......
Samnanya (who is looking for a barf bag)
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