Pippin, you've done it again! (Was -who will betray the Order?)

samnanya yswahl at stis.net
Sun Oct 12 18:06:18 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 82773

> > pippin_999
> > We are looking for someone who is supposed to be 
> > nice, and close enough to Harry for him to take the betrayal 
> > personally.  I'd say the candidates are: Dumbledore, Hagrid,  
> > Hermione, Lupin, Molly and Ron.  Any others?  Most of you know 
> > which one I'd pick.
> >  
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/39362
> > 
> > My assessment of ESE!Lupin's motives is out of date. Even I have 
> > trouble imagining him as a maddog killer,...
> > 
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> Samnanya
> Continuation and clarification of my previous posts -
Please do not waste your time reading this if you havent read
what followed previously - possible MAJOR spoilers ahead (as 
if there werent enough already if you buy into the Evil!Lupin 
theory !)

Samnanya previously .....
> Only thing missing is a solid evil motive. Lupin could have
> been turned just because of the prejudice that wizards have
> borne towards werewolves, but is it enough? He might not
> even be loyal to or working for Voldemort and is just acting
> as a "lone wolf" (sorry, I couldnt resist that). 
> 
> I mean, why do all evildoers have to be loyal to the
> marginally competent Dark Lord ? 
> 
> Hmmmmm.........

What follows is a possible explanation as to why Lupin did 
not want Harry to go after Bellatrix ... Read carefully
when Bellatrix is begging Voldemort for forgiveness .... 

OOP 812 - "Master, I am sorry, I knew not, I was fighting the 
Animagus Black!" sobbed Bellatrix. ...... "Master you should 
know-"
<snip Voldemort's impatient rude condescending comments>
"But master - he is here - he is below -"
{{ uh...... which "he" is she talking about? I always thought
it was Dumbledore....... and clearly that makes the most
sense, but then again Lupin is the most logical and beloved
and  sympathetic good guy too ...

... and are her "you should know" and "he is here" referring
to the same person? Wouldnt it be interesting if what Bella 
was TRYING to say before she was interrupted was "Master you
should know that I didnt kill the Animagus Black - Remus
Lupin did!" 

Wouldnt Bellatrix want the credit for killing Black if she
had done so, particularly if she screwed up getting LV the 
prophecy? Why "I was fighting the Animagus Black" why not
"I was busy killing the Animagus Black"? She likes 
bragging that she is the Dark Lord's most loyal servant;
what better way to get forgiveness and grovelling points
than by bragging.

And for you folks hoping that Sirius communicates with
Harry or returns from behind the veil anytime soon, forget
it if you buy into Evil!Lupin. First thing Sirius would do
is tell Harry who his real killer was...... 

And for you folks who think that Luna is unimportant in
the future, she will {at least} be the "good werewolf"
to Lupins "evil werewolf" so that JKR doesnt portray
werewolves prejudicially. - so far all other chararacter
classes in the potterverse have good and evil members
 except for slytherins and werewolves... Luna will also
be the force trying to get harry to go through the veil
as Lupin will be the force trying to prevent Harry from
doing so.

If nothing else, Evil!Lupin assures that Dumbledore will
either survive or be around well into Book 7 for balance.

Samnanya





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