who will betray the Order?

goodnight_moon5 lmbolland at earthlink.net
Mon Oct 13 10:23:11 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 82813


pippin wrote: 
> Well said! We are looking for someone who is supposed to be 
> nice, and close enough to Harry for him to take the betrayal 
> personally.  I'd say the candidates are: Dumbledore, Hagrid,  
> Hermione, Lupin, Molly and Ron.  Any others?  Most of you know 
> which one I'd pick.
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/39362
> 
> I'll be updating the theory one of these days. My assessment of 
> ESE!Lupin's motives is out of date. Even I have trouble imagining 
> him as a maddog killer, but what if his motive is political? He's a 
> man with a Cause, and that's always dangerous.
> 
> Pippin



Lauri writes:

Well, Sirius & James (and Lily?) once suspected Lupin, and it was 
actually Peter - the LAST person they'd suspect.  So, I tend _not_ to 
think it's Lupin. I don't think it'll be anyone from the "older" 
generations either. I suspect the one to betray the order will come 
from Harry's generation, it's THEIR story this time.

I agree that it'll be someone who we trust, but whom we trust NOT 
because he's been written as trustworthy, but because he seems SO 
incompetent and SUCH an incapable, bumbling, nerveless wizard/witch 
that he's the LAST person we suspect.  Take Ginny, for example, in 
CoS.  On our first reading, we certainly didn't suspect shy little 
Ginny of anything worse than crushing on Harry, and here she's 
killing roosters, scrawling all over the walls, and in cahoots with 
the Dark Lord.  

To that end, who else fits? (As Pippin asked.)  Before OOP, I might 
have said Neville (tho I'm biased toward him - just love the 
character) but post OOP I say he does NOT fit the profile.  How about 
Colin Creevy? We haven't heard much from him in a while, tho.  

Why not Cho Chang? She's not much of a witch ("expelly-umius") and 
she certainly doesn't _seem_ the type to betray the DA. She's also 
seemingly nothing more than a shallow, needy (high maintenance) girl. 
True, she's no longer "close" to Harry.  

It seems it might have to be one of the MOM Six.  (Those six students 
who went to the MOM together: Harry, Ron, Hermione, Neville, Ginny, & 
Luna.)  It won't be Harry, Ginny's already betrayed them, and I 
believe Luna has a different purpose. (See my post on Luna today 
being the Moon Princess from JKR's fav childhood book.)  That doesn't 
leave us too many choices. :(

Speaking of the MOM Six, did anyone notice the strange parallel to 
the tv show Friends?  It contains a brother/sister team (Ross/Monica -
 Ron/Ginny) a "popular guy" (Joey - Harry), a geek (Ross - Neville), 
a "smart girl"(Monica - Hermione), a cool/popular girl (Rachel - 
Ginny), and a very spacey blonde (Phoebe - Luna).
Granted, the delineations aren't cut and dried between the 
characters, but it struck me as odd and funny whilst reading those 
particular chapters!

Lauri B.







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