[HPforGrownups] Re: Ponderables...
James Sharman
jamess at climax.co.uk
Tue Oct 21 09:03:59 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 83233
sarcasticmuppet:
> Ginny wasn't under the Imperius curse, sillies. She
was /possessed/
> by Riddle. In OotP we see that the two are completely different.
> Ginny does not relate any tales of being in complete bliss while
> encouraged to do the CoS stuff. She just doesn't where she was or
> what she did while being possessed. We see in GoF that the
symptoms
> of Imperio are drastically different.
>
Geoff:
Yes, I'd forgotten that.
Without living up to your ID name then, are you suggesting that
Riddle was possessing her literally and therefore he was producing
the Parseltongue needed? He does say "she strangled.." etc. and
not "I made her strangle..." or "I possessed her so that she would
strangle...."
Your next postcard?
SilentJim:
(Formerly referring too himself as James but switching to my LJ nickname
seems wise on a list this size especially after another James chirps into
the thread)
The muppet hath given the answer I always presumed. This could have been in
the form of direct possession or it could have been something else. A
possibility is that LV simply gave Ginny the exact syllables necessary to
open the door, it would not be necessary for Ginny to understand what was
being said (I can memorise a piece of French even though I can't understand
it).
I think the precise mechanic is actually a bit of a distraction, Look at it
this way.
Tom Riddle: True Parseltongue , opened the chamber by his own ability.
Ginny: Not a Parseltongue (We presume), however was under the influence of
TR/LV and one way or another it was effectively his ability that opened the
chamber.
Harry: Has his own ability and was able to open the chamber on his own. His
own ability we are told was transferred from LV so at some level this is
still LV's skill that is opening the chamber.
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