James/MWPP in Slytherin (was MWPP in all 4 Houses)
Doriane
delwynmarch at yahoo.com
Thu Oct 23 13:59:12 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 83411
"darryl_oneill" wrote:
> Has there been a mistaken assumption that James is in Gryffindor.
That could very well be.
> Steve Vander Ark says that James is in Gryffindor (says so in OP).
> Does someone have a chapter/page in US/UK version for this? I
> have read OP a few times and I did not notice it. If there is
> a quote, then the rest of what I have to say is not valid.
Sorry, I don't have my book with me, but I think the only hint is
Harry's thought upon seeing Ron under a tree, that he looks exactly
like another Gryffindor, which we all agree means James.
BUT this is only Harry's opinion. I remember being surprised the
first time I read that sentence, because I was wondering how ever
Harry knew that James was in Gryffindor. It simply doesn't say so
anywhere. It says that Harry thinks so, but it doesn't say why. Harry
could be wrong.
> 1) It does not make sense that most of the major players all seem
> to come from Gryffindor.
I agree.
> 2) The behavior of MWPP especially in book 5 seems much more like
> Draco than anyone in Gryffindor.
I heartily agree ! Harry's not terribly nice with Draco, but at least
he doesn't go out of his way to provoke him. Draco does it, though.
Just like James and Sirius did it with Severus. Slytherin way of life.
> 3) Hagrid said that every bad wizard was from Slytherin at a time
> when he thought that Sirius was an evil wizard
That one has always bothered me !! Sirius is supposed to be the
ultimate traitor, he's supposed to be the one and only reason James
and Lily were killed and Harry ended up as an orphan. So surely
Hagrid could not have forgotten about him when he talked to Harry
about the different Houses ?
> Sirius would be a likely candidate for Slytherin given the existing
> family trends to be in the same house.
Not necessarily. The Patil twins are in 2 different Houses.
> 4) Harry might have been sorted into Gryffindor or Slytherin. This
> makes more sense with one parent in each.
Mm. Maybe.
> 5) There have been 5 books and J.K. has been very silent about what
> houses they were in.
Now THAT is the MAIN clue as far as I'm concerned. If James had been
in Gryffindor, someone would have told Harry, at least to say that he
was in Gryffindor like his parents.
> 6) James seems to be from a rich pureblood family.
?? Do you mean to say that all rich pureblood family end up in
Slytherin ? I know purebloodedness was a choice trait for Slytherin
the Founder, but that doesn't necessarily mean that all purebloods
end up in Slytherin House. Isn't it Ernie McMillan or I don't
remember who, that says he's a pureblood ? And he's in Hufflepuff.
> 7) Lily and James refer to each other by their last names. If they
> were both in Gryffindor together for 5 years then why so distant.
> Everyone in Gryffindor always call each other by their first names.
Ah-ah. Good one ! Dean and Seamus are Dean and Seamus, but Draco is
Malfoy (and Crabbe and Goyle).
My biggest problem with that theory is this : if James was in
Slytherin, don't you think Malfoy would know it, and would already
have told Harry a long time ago, just to hurt him ? I just can't find
a reasonable reason for Draco *not* to do that.
Del
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