James/MWPP in Slytherin (was MWPP in all 4 Houses)

sachmet96 sachmet96 at yahoo.co.uk
Thu Oct 23 14:57:35 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 83416


darryl_oneill wrote:
> > 2) The behavior of MWPP especially in book 5 seems much more like 
> > Draco than anyone in Gryffindor.
Del wrote:
> I heartily agree ! Harry's not terribly nice with Draco, but at 
least 
> he doesn't go out of his way to provoke him. Draco does it, though. 
> Just like James and Sirius did it with Severus. Slytherin way of 
life.

sachmet96:
Not neseccarily only Slytherin. It depends on the point of view. The 
Weasley twins and other Gryffindors have shown that Gryffindors can 
also be extremely provoking. I am thinking about what they did 
with/to Umbridge. As much as I don't like Umbridge and as much as 
they thought they were in the right, from her point of view (and for 
example Filch's) it was nothing but taunting.


darryl_oneill and dell:
> > 3) Hagrid said that every bad wizard was from Slytherin at a time 
> > when he thought that Sirius was an evil wizard 
> 
> That one has always bothered me !! Sirius is supposed to be the 
> ultimate traitor, he's supposed to be the one and only reason James 
> and Lily were killed and Harry ended up as an orphan. So surely 
> Hagrid could not have forgotten about him when he talked to Harry 
> about the different Houses ? 
> 
> > Sirius would be a likely candidate for Slytherin given the 
existing 
> > family trends to be in the same house.
> 
> Not necessarily. The Patil twins are in 2 different Houses.
> 
> > 4) Harry might have been sorted into Gryffindor or Slytherin.  
This 
> > makes more sense with one parent in each.
> 
> Mm. Maybe.
> 
> > 5) There have been 5 books and J.K. has been very silent about 
what 
> > houses they were in.
> 
> Now THAT is the MAIN clue as far as I'm concerned. If James had 
been 
> in Gryffindor, someone would have told Harry, at least to say that 
he 
> was in Gryffindor like his parents.
> 
> > 6) James seems to be from a rich pureblood family.
> 
> ?? Do you mean to say that all rich pureblood family end up in 
> Slytherin ? I know purebloodedness was a choice trait for Slytherin 
> the Founder, but that doesn't necessarily mean that all purebloods 
> end up in Slytherin House. Isn't it Ernie McMillan or I don't 
> remember who, that says he's a pureblood ? And he's in Hufflepuff.
> 
> > 7) Lily and James refer to each other by their last names.  If 
they 
> > were both in Gryffindor together for 5 years then why so 
distant.  
> > Everyone in Gryffindor always call each other by their first 
names.
> 
> Ah-ah. Good one ! Dean and Seamus are Dean and Seamus, but Draco is 
> Malfoy (and Crabbe and Goyle).
> 
> My biggest problem with that theory is this : if James was in 
> Slytherin, don't you think Malfoy would know it, and would already 
> have told Harry a long time ago, just to hurt him ? I just can't 
find 
> a reasonable reason for Draco *not* to do that.

sachmet96
The points above are very good and I agree but there is one thing 
that I think might speak against the Slytherin theory. When Harry was 
in the pensieve he saw James and Sirius and they surely wore their 
school uniforms. Wouldn't Harry have noticed (and reacted) if they 
were form Slytherin? He might not have said anything if they were 
form any other house, but Slytherin would surely have been a shock 
for him? 

I also think it unlikely that all major players are from Gryffindor. 
But I do believe that James at least might have been in Gryffindor. 
He acts like a bully but putting him in Slytherin would be too 
stereotypical, so I hope JKR puts him in Gryffindor (or antoher 
house) to avoid such stereotypes. And it could also explain why he 
ended up a supposedly 'decent' guy after he left school - the 
influence of his more 'Gryffindor-like' housemates (of course this 
again is a stereotype). 
And we don't know if he was a good guy at all it's kind of suspicious 
that one only hears good things about him, like everyone is trying to 
make see Harry a certain picture of his father but they never get 
into detail (like not telling his house, when his parents married, 
how they met or stuff like the names of his grandparents or what 
happened to them).







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